On Jun 20, 2007, at 10:08 AM, Kashyap, Vipul wrote:
VK> I think Pat raises a very valid point. I do sense that folks are treating BFO as ³true² and sometimes probably trying to shoe-horn their requirements into it. The scientific method requires that the various constructs and distinctions of BFO (and for that matter others such as DOLCE, OpenCyc, etc.) be evaluated from the use perspective and see if they bring any value in the context of a real application probably healthcare and life sciences.
Usually I think of the scientific method as trying to determine truth, not utility, though as you know I'm a big one for utility. Note that my general support for BFO has been based on its utility in collaboratively building ontologies for combining knowledge, particularly OBI and in the HCLS demo. I'm quite interested in anyone else's work that might be used to be able to evaluate alternatives, but I plan to invest my limited time in continuing to use and improve BFO until it breaks in a way that can't be fixed.

Fair enough. I wouldn't want to suggest that this 'breaking' is likely to happen when using BFO. I do believe that a simpler framework would provide as much utility; but at this stage this observation may be a bit like moaning about the size of Windows compared with OS X.

BTW, I do not intend to evaluate whether these constructs are ontologically sound, etc. but the question we need to answer as a group is: Are these constructs useful?
I don't know what "ontologically sound" means. I would offer that a "best practice" would be be to make sure that part of our "acceptance tests" for agreeing that something is useful is that many of us understand what is meant by a construct.

Fair enough, though I would suggest strengthening it and making it more empirical: that many of y'all understand *and all agree* what is meant by a construct. So that a recurrent need to have discussions about whether or not a construct applies to a new case, may be a sign that it is not as well mutually understood as one initially thought.

Another acceptance test I would urge on y'all is to ask, of each construct, what utility it might be. For example, of a proposed distinction, is making this distinction useful (for what?), or does it simply make a distinction, which could be ignored?

Pat


-Alan


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