On Jul 15, 2007, at 6:58 AM, Carole Goble wrote:

Alan

This can be done now, with effort analogous to what is being done with LSIDS. Let me point out some obvious advantages: 1) No requirement to use web services (though web services *could* be described as ways of accessing further statements using this scheme) 2) Requires *less* manual intervention than is currently required to maintain the WSDL. 3) Re-uses purl, which is based on HTTP, which everyone knows how to use already 4) Makes clear that the description of these additional resources for statements are to be in RDF, and requires that one advertises what to expect if you go to the resource (will you get an RDF document, a SPARQL endpoint, a Web service set of methods?)
and the disadvantages? Lets not forget some basic rigour here. Other than rebuilding everything from scratch. Again.

Fair enough. I think there will be some pain involved no matter what the solution is, certainly on the side of current LSID users if we choose not to use them universally, and otherwise on the side of the clients who have not yet adopted them.

I do think that it it is possible to arrange things in such a way as to minimize the impact to current LSID users -- there's been some though even in this design to doing so - and probably more can be done along the lines of the "batch" adaptations that provide alternate mechanisms once the basics are in place. I *think* it may simply be matter of making the purl redirect to the LSID resolver, and generating some boilerplate RDF that lets other SW agents be aware of the web service available "metadata".

Much of the rest of my proposal was either reusing other "standards", such as 303, and making explicit some agreements that we would need to make things predictable, that aren't currently specified in the LSID spec (such as agreement on the format and some minimal contents of the "metadata").

I also want to clarify that I don't mean to say that there isn't a place for web services on the semantic web. But I did have conversations with several people including you, who indicated that they were burdonsome *in the specific case of id resolution* and that, compared to other features of the spec - particularly location independence - it might even be a benefit to dispense with them.

Thanks for saying something,
Alan


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