On Mar 25, 2009, at 11:25 AM, Mark Wilkinson wrote:

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:41:37 -0700, Phillip Lord <phillip.l...@newcastle.ac.uk > wrote:



If I remember correctly the original post that started this of Ben has it about right. We need some tags which say "these two database records
are about the same protein, well, sort of, at least in this case, for
the purposes of what I am doing".


I agree - the issue also came up at the BioHackathon last week... basically, as Tom Oinn phrased it, "if you're thinking of using owl:sameAs... don't!"

Another predicate is needed that is less "rigourous" - owl:kindOfLike :-)

I think there is another, potentially more nefarious concern in the statement that Ben was objecting to in his post. The statement was:

http://www.uniprot.org/tissues/229 (subject)
http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#sameAs (predicate)
http://purl.uniprot.org/po/0009009 (object)

my concern is whether http://purl.uniprot.org/po/0009009 is intended to be a class, or intended to be an instance... since owl:sameAs is only supposed to be used to claim the "identicalness" of two individuals, not an individual to a class...

Oh what a tangled "Web" we weave!  ;-)

Well, if you can tell us how to do some weaving, we maybe can make progress. The properties of sameAs are fairly easy to list. It is transitive, reflexive, symmetric and substitutive: if A sameAs B and something is true of A, then its also true of B. So, which of these _aren't_ correct for the application you have in mind? Can you say why not (an example will do)? "Less rigorous" doesn't cut it.

Pat Hayes


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Providence Heart + Lung Institute
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