Dear all,
I think these details are relevant for reasoning about patient data et
cetera., but the documentation of schema.org and the proposed medical
extensions make it very clear that they are not intended for such tasks. I
think that the issues highlighted here are not highly relevant for basic
entity annotation and capturing basic statements used for improved retrieval
of information on the web -- as intended by the people driving these
projects. Let's try not to scare them away! :-)
I made some progress with mapping the schema.org extensions to some Linked
Open Drug Data classes and properties, but have to pause this work for the
rest of the week because of teaching duties. I will try to publish a first
draft next week.
- Matthias
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From: "Stuart Turner" <turner.stu...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:55 PM
To: "Luciano, Joanne S." <luci...@rpi.edu>
Cc: "Solbrig, Harold R." <solbrig.har...@mayo.edu>; "R. Cornet"
<r.cor...@amc.uva.nl>; "Michel Dumontier" <michel.dumont...@gmail.com>;
"Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D." <freimuth.rob...@mayo.edu>; "Jim McCusker"
<james.mccus...@yale.edu>; "Aaron Brown" <abbr...@google.com>; "Dan
Brickley" <dan...@danbri.org>; "Renato Iannella" <r...@semanticidentity.com>;
"Lin MD, Simon" <linmd.si...@mcrf.mfldclin.edu>; "Matthias Samwald"
<matthias.samw...@meduniwien.ac.at>; <public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org>
Subject: Re: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health & medical
extensions to schema.org
A patient (human or non-human) continues to be a patient after their
death. Medical procedures continue (e.g. autopsy/necropsy). Medical
records are revised and persisted naturally, and by law. A death
certificate is issued. And so on. HL7 modeling isn't ideal for guidance
here, especially when referring to patients of the non-human variety :)
~ Stuart
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On May 23, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Luciano, Joanne S. wrote:
Do they? The body does. The memory doesn't, in digital space:
What happens to their data?
Does their data disappear? Their medical record?
They "were" a patient. Not sure what that means - maybe we need, in
addition to is_a a new class was_a (for the has beens).
some things to muse about.
joanne
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On May 23, 2012, at 3:37 PM, Solbrig, Harold R. wrote:
Although, if the patient dies, the person goes away as well, no? ;-)
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Cornet
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:26 PM
To: Michel Dumontier; Freimuth, Robert, Ph.D.
Cc: Jim McCusker; Aaron Brown; Dan Brickley; Renato Iannella; Lin MD,
Simon; Matthias Samwald; public-semweb-lifesci@w3.org
Subject: RE: RDF Schema / LODD mapping -- Re: New proposal: health &
medical extensions to schema.org
I would say that if you follow ontoclean, being a patient is a non-rigid
property of a person.
Ronald
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