On 05/27/2016 03:10 AM, Renato Iannella wrote:

On 27 May 2016, at 11:09, David Booth <da...@dbooth.org> wrote:

I think it is important to distinguish two separate and orthogonal
concerns:
>> 1. What data should be shared or exchanged?
>> 2. What does the data mean?
>> Security and privacy are all about #1 -- not #2.
Schema.org and healthcare vocabularies address #2 -- not #1.

I don’t think that is the case. Schema.org's dual purpose is to
"promote schemas for structured data on web pages", so this includes
the exchange of such data as a key driver behind creating the terms
on schema.org.

It is, but the purpose of promoting schemas for structured data on web pages is to enable shared meaning between data publishers and machine consumers (such as search engines), when data is exchanged between them.


Hence, whether we like it or not, just specifying personal data as a
property in schema.org does not mean we can then not address how
privacy is handled. This is especially relevant for healthcare data.

It seems to me that privacy needs to be addressed at the level of protocols and policies. What are you suggesting relevant to vocabularies, such as schema.org?


My (other related) point is *why* do we need to create a set of
schema.org URIs for the same FHIR URIs ?

For example, we already have http://hl7.org/fhir/MedicationOrder We
do we now need (and maintain): http://schema.org/MedicationOrder ??

Great question. There is a huge need for standards convergence, to facilitate semantic interoperability. Standards convergence is the ultimate goal of "standardizing the standards", described here:
http://yosemiteproject.org/2015/webinars/standardize/
Standards convergence means converging on a common set of shared concepts that are used across standards, so that multiple standards can be cleanly used together as a cohesive whole, rather than acting as inconsistent competing standards. (There are currently over 100 "standard" vocabularies used in healthcare, defining overlapping concepts in different data formats and data models.)

One step toward standards convergence is to have formal semantic linkage between vocabularies. This is essential to prevent babelization that would otherwise occur when yet another standard (such as FHIR or schema.org) is defined:
http://xkcd.com/927/

Once concepts from other vocabularies (such as FHIR) are brought into a vocabulary (such as schema.org) then the overlaps and differences between concepts become more visible, and it becomes easier for the community to reconcile them and converge on a set of shared concepts.

There is a lot of visibility and institutional backing behind schema.org. Rightly or wrongly this gives it the possibility of acting as an uber-vocabulary that spans many domains -- including healthcare -- and helps toward standards convergence.

David Booth

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