On 9/9/11 6:27 AM, ext Olli Pettay wrote:
On 09/07/2011 05:09 PM, Aryeh Gregor wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Arthur
Barstow<art.bars...@nokia.com> wrote:
Some members of the group consider the D3E spec as the highest
priority of
our DOM-related specs and they have put considerable resources into
that
spec. Doug and Jacob will continue to lead that spec effort, and as I
understand it, a CR for D3E is imminent. I expect the group to help
progress
that spec.
At the same time, others members have put substantial resources into
DOM
Core (and closely related functionality such as DOM Range).
Naturally, they
want to preserve that investment and I support that work continuing.
The real question is not who's invested what, it's what browsers will
implement. If we're moving toward a situation where IE will implement
D3E and everyone else will implement DOM Core's idea of events,
What is the real difference in D3E and DOM4's "idea of events"?
Just some different syntax for initialization (new Event() ), which I
see as an additional feature on top of D3E.
Features in D3E are actively being implemented also in non-IE browsers.
and
both groups will claim to be implementing "the standard", that's an
absolutely terrible idea and we need to put a stop to it right now.
If the only real reason for it is because different editors or
employers have made investments in different bodies of spec text,
instead of because browser implementers actually disagree on what they
should implement, that's even worse. I would object in the strongest
terms to progressing any standard to CR if it contains features that
are specified differently in a different standard, if it looks
plausible that different implementers will follow different versions.
(I have not looked at the content of D3E or DOM Core, though, so I
can't say specifically how bad the situation would be if this
happened, nor which should be retired in favor of the other.)
Atm the situation isn't bad, IMHO. DOM4 just adds something on top
of D3E.
The D3E and DOM Core (nka DOM4) compatibility question has been asked
before. I believe some alignments on both sides were made last May
(before DOM Core was last published in /TR/).
If additional changes need to be made to make these specs compatible,
the www-dom list should be used for related discussions, issues, etc.
-ArtB
