As I said before, this action is premature and we should let the PAG conclude 
(or at least wait for a status report) - the W3C Team may have more to say, but 
if this is on the order of weeks I do not think making work here to have 
apparent progress is useful. I have not seen a definitive statement from the 
ECC PAG chair.

Did you read the message from Brian LaMacchia? If not, please read it, as it 
provides additional argument against this proposed change.

I am against revising XML Signature 1.1 until I understand the actual PAG 
status and until we have XML Security WG agreement. This endless email debate 
is not helpful and I'm not sure I understand the urgency related to widgets 
apart from a desire to mark it as complete.

regards, Frederick

Frederick Hirsch
Nokia



On Dec 21, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

> TLR, FH, XMLSecWG,
> 
> On 12/21/11 6:03 AM, ext Marcos Caceres wrote:
>>  Lets go back an look at the options we have  to divorce Widgets/XML Dig Sig 
>> from Elliptic Curve:
>> 
>>   1. Remove ECC from XML Dig Sig (in my opinion, "the right thing to do"™):
>> 
>>   pros:
>>      - frees both XML Dig Sig and Widgets Dig Sig to progress to REC at full 
>> speed.
>>      - begins a pattern of divorcing signature algorithms from processing (a 
>> good thing, which avoids this kind of mess!)
>> 
>>   cons:
>>      - new small spec needed
>>      - XML Dig Sig missing an important algorithm.
> 
> Based on a quick scan of the XMLSec WG's mail archive [2], it appears that WG 
> has known about potential IP issues related to Certicom/RIM and ECC for 
> almost 3 years. As such, surely the WG has already discussed refactoring the 
> XMLSig spec in a way like Marcos and I proposed.
> 
> Would you please explain why the WG objects to such refactoring (or provide a 
> link(s) to the related discussion)?
> 
> As an FYI for the XMLSec WG members, note that another widget spec was 
> blocked for two years because of a PAG [1] so it's quite understandable that 
> having widgets-digsig blocked by YA PAG creates concerns for some WG members, 
> especially given the ECC PAG Chair's "pessimistic" view [3] of a "quick" PAG 
> resolution.
> 
> -Thanks, AB
> 
> [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/11/widgets-pag/pagreport.html
> [2] 
> http://www.w3.org/Search/Mail/Public/search?keywords=&hdr-1-name=subject&hdr-1-query=certicom&index-grp=Public_FULL&index-type=t&type-index=public-xmlsec
> [3] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2011OctDec/1540.html
> 
> 


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