I don’t agree with this. We should permit givenName and surname for now, but 
still permit O fields. There isn’t a good reason to switch over until after 
we’ve seen the impact of moving to givenName and surname instead of the O 
field.  The language for the state/locality is the same. An IV or OV cert 
requires either a state or locality.  The OIDs are already clearly defined 
under Section 7.1.6.1 of the BRs. This wouldn’t change.  

 

Jeremy

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Richard Wang
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2016 9:42 AM
To: Bruce Morton <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [cabfpub] givenName and surname revived

 

See below inline, thanks.

Regards,

 

Richard


On 19 Aug 2016, at 20:40, Bruce Morton <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Jeremy,

 

Would like some clarification. On the call yesterday, it was said that IV 
certificates were not defined, so this ballot will help resolve this.

 

Per 7.1.4.2.2 b, the current BRs allow givenName and surname to be included in 
the organizationName field. Will this still be allowed? If so, what would the 
certificate type be? OV or IV? I would prefer that these be OV certificates.

 

R: I think we need to update this item in the same time that the givenName and 
surname to be included in the organizationName field is not allowed. This will 
confuse the site visitor think the personal name is a registered company name.

 





 

If we do make the changes and the CAs have to meet Microsoft’s requirement to 
put a DV, OV, or IV certificate policy in the certificate, I think we should 
clearly define each certificate type.

 

R: Yes.





 

Also, the stateOrProvinceName field appears to currently have an issue as it 
does not have any language to address the case where there is no state or 
province in the address.

 

R: I think locality and state/province must have one.





 

Thanks, Bruce.

 

From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>  
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Rowley
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 12:09 PM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [cabfpub] givenName and surname revived

 

Looking for two endorsers for the following revisions the baseline requirements 
adding support for givenName and surname:

 

Insert a new (C) under 7.1.4.2.2, renumbering all subsequent bullets. 

 

c. Certificate Field: subject:givenName (2.5.4.42) and subject:surname (2.5.4.4)

Optional. 

Contents:  If present, the subject:givenName field and subject:surname field 
MUST contain an natural person Subject’s name as verified under Section 3.2.3. 
A Certificate containing a subject:givenName field or subject:surname field 
MUST contain the (2.23.140.1.2.3) Certificate Policy OID.

 

d. Certificate Field: Number and street: subject:streetAddress (OID: 2.5.4.9) 

    Optional if the subject:organizationName field, subject: givenName field, 
or subject:surname field are is present. Prohibited if the 
subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName, and subject:surname field 
are is absent.

   Contents: If present, the subject:streetAddress field MUST contain the 
Subject’s street address information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. 

 

e. Certificate Field: subject:localityName (OID: 2.5.4.7) 

Required if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or 
subject:surname field are is present and the subject:stateOrProvinceName field 
is absent. Optional if the subject:stateOrProvinceName field and the 
subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname  
field are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, 
subject:givenName, and subject:surname field are is absent. 

Contents: If present, the subject:localityName field MUST contain the Subject’s 
locality information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the 
subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in 
accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g), the localityName field MAY contain the 
Subject’s locality and/or state or province information as verified under 
Section 3.2.2.1. 

 

f. Certificate Field: subject:stateOrProvinceName (OID: 2.5.4.8) 

Required if the subject:organizationName field field, subject:givenName field, 
or subject:surname field are is present and the subject:localityName field is 
absent. Optional if the subject:localityName field and the 
subject:organizationName field, the subject:givenName field, or subject:surname 
field are present. Prohibited if the subject:organizationName field, 
subject:givenName field , or subject:surname field are is absent. Contents: If 
present, the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MUST contain the Subject’s state 
or province information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If the 
subject:countryName field specifies the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX in 
accordance with Section 7.1.4.2.2(g), the subject:stateOrProvinceName field MAY 
contain the full name of the Subject’s country information as verified under 
Section 3.2.2.1.

 

g. Certificate Field: subject:postalCode (OID: 2.5.4.17)

Optional if the subject:organizationName, subject:givenName field, or 
subject:surname fields are is present. Prohibited if the 
subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName field, or subject:surname 
field are is absent. 

Contents: If present, the subject:postalCode field MUST contain the Subject’s 
zip or postal information as verified under Section 3.2.2.1. 

 

h. Certificate Field: subject:countryName (OID: 2.5.4.6) 

Required if the subject:organizationName field, subject:givenName , or 
subject:surname field is present. Optional if the subject:organizationName 
field, subject:givenName field, and  subject:surname field are is absent. 

Contents: If the subject:organizationName field is present, the 
subject:countryName MUST contain the two‐letter ISO 3166‐1 country code 
associated with the location of the Subject verified under Section 3.2.2.1. If 
the subject:organizationName, subject:givenName field, and subject:surname  
field are  is absent, the subject:countryName field MAY contain the two‐letter 
ISO 3166‐1 country code associated with the Subject as verified in accordance 
with Section 3.2.2.3. If a Country is not represented by an official ISO 3166‐1 
country code, the CA MAY specify the ISO 3166‐1 user‐assigned code of XX 
indicating that an official ISO 3166‐1 alpha‐2 code has not been assigned.

 

i. Certificate Field: subject:organizationalUnitName 

Optional. 

Contents: The CA SHALL implement a process that prevents an OU attribute from 
including a name, DBA, tradename, trademark, address, location, or other text 
that refers to a specific natural person or Legal Entity unless the CA has 
verified this information in accordance with Section 3.2 and the Certificate 
also contains subject:organizationName, subject:givenName, subject:surname, 
subject:localityName, and subject:countryName attributes, also verified in 
accordance with Section 3.2.2.1.

 

7.1.6.1

…

If the Certificate asserts the policy identifier of 2.23.140.1.2.1, then it 
MUST NOT include organizationName, givenName, surname, streetAddress, 
localityName, stateOrProvinceName, or postalCode in the Subject field.

…

 

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