Hi Moudrick, yes, these Root-CAs that are the subject of this Root Inclusion Request are fully managed by Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH.
Greetings Stefan Von: Moudrick M. Dadashov <[email protected]> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. November 2023 20:50 An: Kirch, Stefan <[email protected]>; [email protected] Cc: FMB TrustCenter-Roots <[email protected]> Betreff: RE: AW: Public Discussion of Deutsche Telekom Security CA Inclusion Request Thank you, Stefan. Do I understand correctly that, despite of the organisational structure and the relationship between the group members, this CA is fully managed by Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH? Thanks, M.D. Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Date: 11/2/23 15:29 (GMT+02:00) To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: AW: Public Discussion of Deutsche Telekom Security CA Inclusion Request Hi, For our answer we assume that "Deutsche Telekom AG" is meant rather than "Deutsche Telekom GmbH" (such a company does not exist). The relationship is as follows: - Deutsche Telekom AG is the Group’s parent company - Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH is a 100% subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom AG - T-Systems International GmbH is a 100% subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom AG With regard to the publicly trusted certificates, T-Systems International GmbH was the owner of the Root CA certificates as well as the operator of all Sub CAs of the Deutsche Telekom Group until 2020. With the establishment of Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH in 2020, ownership of the Root CAs as well as operation of the Sub CAs of the Deutsche Telekom Group were transferred internally from T-Systems International GmbH to Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH. As the transfer also included all employees concerned, and operations continued at the same physical locations under the same conditions, the change mainly only took place on paper, with the name "T-Systems International GmbH" being replaced by "Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH" in the relevant documents and contracts. Regarding the change of the Root ownership see also https://groups.google.com/g/mozilla.dev.security.policy/c/pOu_jWY0SVY/m/2uLyuK4TAwAJ Greetings Stefan Von: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Im Auftrag von Moudrick M. Dadashov Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. November 2023 19:39 An: Ryan Dickson <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; public <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Betreff: RE: Public Discussion of Deutsche Telekom Security CA Inclusion Request Thank you. I’m trying to understand the organisational structure of the applicant. Could someone please introduce us the relationship between Deutsche Telekom GmbH, Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH and T-Systems International GmbH? Specifically I’m interested to understand their roles within the CA operations. Thanks, M.D. Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: 'Ryan Dickson' via CCADB Public <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 11/1/23 15:08 (GMT+02:00) To: public <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Subject: Public Discussion of Deutsche Telekom Security CA Inclusion Request All, This email commences a six-week public discussion of Deutsche Telekom Security’s request to include the following CA certificates as publicly trusted root certificates in one or more CCADB Root Store Member’s program. This discussion period is scheduled to close on December 13, 2023. The purpose of this public discussion process is to promote openness and transparency. However, each Root Store makes its inclusion decisions independently, on its own timelines, and based on its own inclusion criteria. Successful completion of this public discussion process does not guarantee any favorable action by any root store. Anyone with concerns or questions is urged to raise them on this CCADB Public list by replying directly in this discussion thread. Likewise, a representative of the applicant must promptly respond directly in the discussion thread to all questions that are posted. CCADB Case Number: 00001269<https://ccadb.my.salesforce-sites.com/mozilla/PrintViewForCase?CaseNumber=00001269> Organization Background Information (listed in CCADB): • CA Owner Name:Deutsche Telekom Security GmbH • Website: https://www.telesec.de/ • Address: Untere Industriestrasse 20, Netphen, 57250 Germany • Problem Reporting Mechanisms: https://www.telesec.de/en/kontakt-en • Organization Type: Private Corporation o Deutsche Telekom Security is a subsidiary of Deutsche Telekom AG • Repository URL: https://www.telesec.de/en/service/downloads/pki-repository/ Certificates Requesting Inclusion: 1. Telekom Security SMIME ECC Root 2021: o Certificate download links: (CA Repository<https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/Telekom_Security_SMIME_ECC_Root_2021.cer>, crt.sh<https://crt.sh/?sha256=3AE6DF7E0D637A65A8C81612EC6F9A142F85A16834C10280D88E707028518755>) o Use cases served/EKUs: • Secure Email (S/MIME) 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.4 o Test websites: N/A (S/MIME CA) 2. Telekom Security TLS ECC Root 2020: o Certificate download links: (CA Repository<https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/Telekom_Security_TLS_ECC_Root_2020.cer>, crt.sh<https://crt.sh/?sha256=578AF4DED0853F4E5998DB4AEAF9CBEA8D945F60B620A38D1A3C13B2BC7BA8E1>) o Use cases served/EKUs: • Server Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1 • Client Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 o Test websites: • Valid: https://active.tstlser20.test.telesec.de/ • Revoked:https://revoked.tstlser20.test.telesec.de/ • Expired: https://expired.tstlser20.test.telesec.de/ 3. Telekom Security SMIME RSA Root 2023: o Certificate download links: (CA Repository<https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/Telekom_Security_SMIME_RSA_Root_2023.cer>, crt.sh<https://crt.sh/?sha256=78A656344F947E9CC0F734D9053D32F6742086B6B9CD2CAE4FAE1A2E4EFDE048>) o Use cases served/EKUs: • Secure Email (S/MIME) 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.4 • Client Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 o Test websites: N/A (S/MIME CA) 4. Telekom Security TLS RSA Root 2023: o Certificate download links: (CA Repository<https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/Telekom_Security_TLS_RSA_Root_2023.cer>, crt.sh<https://crt.sh/?sha256=EFC65CADBB59ADB6EFE84DA22311B35624B71B3B1EA0DA8B6655174EC8978646>) o Use cases served/EKUs: • Server Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1 • Client Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 o Test websites: • Valid: https://active.tstlsrr23.test.telesec.de/ • Revoked: https://revoked.tstlsrr23.test.telesec.de/ • Expired: https://expired.tstlsrr23.test.telesec.de/ Existing Publicly Trusted Root CAs from Deutsche Telekom Security: 1. T-TeleSec GlobalRoot Class 2: o Certificate download links: CA Repository<https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/T-TeleSec_GlobalRoot_Class_2.cer>, crt.sh<https://crt.sh/?q=91E2F5788D5810EBA7BA58737DE1548A8ECACD014598BC0B143E041B17052552> o Use cases served/EKUs: • Server Authentication (TLS) 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1 • Secure Email (S/MIME) 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.4 • Client Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 o Certificate Corpus: here<https://search.censys.io/search?resource=certificates&q=parsed.extensions.authority_key_id%3A+bf5920360079a0a0226b8cd5f261d2b82ccb824a> (requires Censys account) o Included in: Apple, Chrome, Microsoft, Mozilla 2. T-TeleSec GlobalRoot Class 3: o Certificate download links: CA Repository<https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/T-TeleSec_GlobalRoot_Class_3.cer>, crt.sh<https://crt.sh/?q=FD73DAD31C644FF1B43BEF0CCDDA96710B9CD9875ECA7E31707AF3E96D522BBD> o Use cases served/EKUs: • Server Authentication (TLS) 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.1; • Client Authentication 1.3.6.1.5.5.7.3.2 o Certificate Corpus: here<https://search.censys.io/search?resource=certificates&q=parsed.extensions.authority_key_id%3A+b503f7763b61826a12aa1853eb032194bffececa> (requires Censys account) o Included in: Apple, Chrome, Microsoft, Mozilla Relevant Policy and Practices Documentation: • Certificate Policy - v. 4.0 (Sept. 1, 2023), https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/Telekom-Security-CP-EN-V4.0.pdf • Certification Practices Statement - v. 6.0 (Sept. 1, 2023), https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/PKI-Repository/Telekom-Security-CPS-Public-EN-V6.0.pdf Most Recent Self-Assessment: • https://www.telesec.de/assets/downloads/2023-08-28_Telekom_Security_CCADB_Self_Assessment_Framework_v1.2.xlsx Audit Statements: • Auditor: TÜV Informationstechnik GmbH • Audit Criteria: ETSI EN 319 411-1 V1.3.1 (2021-05); ETSI EN 319 411-2, V2.4.1 (2021-11) • Date of Audit Letter Issuance: June 21, 2023 • For Period of Time: April 8, 2022, through April 7, 2023 • Audit Statement(s): o https://www.tuvit.de/fileadmin/Content/TUV_IT/zertifikate/en/AA2023062101_Telekom_Security_2023_V1.0.pdf Incident Summary (Bugzilla incidents from previous 24 months): • Improper use of a domain validation method (Bugzilla Bug #1825780<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1825780>) Thanks, Ryan, on behalf of the CCADB Steering Committee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CCADB Public" group. 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