On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:57 PM, Spencer Krum <krum.spen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Puppet-dev,
>
> I've been working, with a lot of help from some others, on a new project
> at http://puppet-analytics.org. It is very much in the
> experimental/development phase and I'm looking for feedback and help.
>
> The goal of this project is to enable module authors and users greater
> visibility into module use. The architecture is modeled after Debian's
> popularity contest, where a program on the debian system reports to a
> central server about package use. This means that Puppet users can
> submit(through a json/http endpoint) 'hey I've deployed this version of
> stdlib!'. After a bunch of users have been reporting for a while, module
> maintainers can see the trends, identify which versions of the modules are
> being used, etc. Similarly users can see which modules are the most
> popular, which versions of those modules are the most popular, etc.
>
>
This all looks awesome!


> There is an arbitrary tagging system built in that allows users to report
> that the deploy is being performed by their ci infrastructure, by a
> developer doing testing, or by an operator pushing code to production. This
> allows people viewing the data to see the 'true' numbers, unpolluted by ci
> systems or runaway webcrawlers.
>
>
I'm wondering if there would be a way of saying "all of these installations
are for the same 'site'". That would remove a module looking popular simply
because it is installed a lot, but only by two or three groups. Maybe that
information is valuable, maybe not...I'm not sure yet.


> Reporting can be done with curl, or with a script. Right now there is a
> script and example curl to report to puppet analytics at:
> https://github.com/nibalizer/puppet-analytics-client. I think everyone's
> infrastructure looks a little different, so writing a generic tool to
> report to PA would be pretty hard. I'd like puppet-analytics-client to
> become a place to put scripts and tools to hit PA.
>
> I'm interested in your thoughts an opinions. Especially around the opt-in
> architecture. Would you be willing to report to PA? Do you think we would
> ever be able to get enough people reporting that the data would be
> significant? All the code is open source on github (
> https://github.com/nibalizer/puppet-analytics). The website is hosted on
> digital ocean. I also have the mental model that people would report after
> every code change to their Puppet infrastructure, i.e. in the post-commit
> hook if using dynamic environments. Is this a model you agree with? Do you
> have a different idea?
>
>
I think that is a great thing to shoot for. I'm personally a little
cautious about making a deploy process depend on external services, but
this could be fired off as a background job and it doesn't really matter
too much if it works or not.


> We have had a lot of conversations, on this list, and in person, around
> 'what are people doing with puppet?' I think a tool like this could really
> help us figure out which modules are being used the most often.
>
>
Currently I answer this by trawling through a dump of the forge that we
have available internally. However, my questions often revolve around how
people are using the language rather than what modules are in use. That
said, knowing which modules are heavily used would help everyone to
understand a lot more.


> Please note that PA is not nearly done yet. Much of the empty space I
> expect will be filled in with cool visualizations of the data. It is liable
> to break at any time, especially with actual users. One of the cool
> features that is currently in PR is the ability to have shields.io
> downloads tags come from PA and show up in the ReadMe's of our modules.
>
> Thanks everybody,
> Spencer
>
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