OK I'm convinced.. We'll make sure there's a versioned repo that the packages actually flow into. I'd like to additionally have a non-versioned symlink repo+release package so people can track the current set if they want.
John, thanks for the persistence. --eric0 On Tuesday, March 28, 2017 at 4:40:39 AM UTC-7, Erik Dalén wrote: > > Doing like debian with both named releases like squeeze and jessie etc, > but also repositories like stable would be a nice option. That way users > can just choose if they only want to stick to puppet 4.x packages in the > repo or if they prefer to use package pinning instead and have the repo > contain all packages. > > I would assume the majority of users pin their package versions, so the > current solution where you need to both start mirroring a new repo, switch > your hosts to use that and update the pinning is a bit of a hassle with no > benefits compared to just updating the pinning which was the case before > the PC1 repo. > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 at 13:31 Trevor Vaughan <tvaug...@onyxpoint.com> > wrote: > >> +1 for just removing old repos. >> >> I would do something like CentOS where you have an archive or >> 'unsupported' space for people that simply can't upgrade for whatever >> reason. >> >> yum.puppetlabs.com/unsupported for the RPM users, for example. >> >> Trevor >> >> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 9:12 AM, John Bollinger < >> john.bollin...@stjude.org> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 5:09:31 PM UTC-5, Eric Sorenson wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, that was the whole collections idea in a nutshell, but every one >>>> of those new repos would inevitably leave some people stranded on an old >>>> one. Terrifyingly, there are still something like 100,000 hosts[1] hitting >>>> the EOL'ed 3.x repos, which will never get any updates... there's no >>>> clearly great answer here but optimizing to protect people who have >>>> 'ensure >>>> => latest' against upstream repos doesn't seem like the right thing. >>>> >>> >>> We've had this discussion before. Nevertheless, I submit that the >>> proposition is not to "optimize" for people who rely on the upstream repos, >>> but rather to faithfully fulfill the responsibilities that many people >>> presume you undertake by providing software repos in the first place. In >>> this case that also carries the benefit of avoiding torpedoing some 100K or >>> so Puppet installations, and regardless of technical considerations, I >>> question the wisdom of such a move on business and community relations >>> grounds. >>> >>> If you don't want to maintain repos for the EOL software versions (which >>> is reasonable), then it would be much better to simply remove those repos >>> than to drop incompatible package versions into them. >>> >>> >>> John >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Puppet Developers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to puppet-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/070d678d-68eb-4147-913e-d453f6c411ff%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/070d678d-68eb-4147-913e-d453f6c411ff%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Trevor Vaughan >> Vice President, Onyx Point, Inc >> (410) 541-6699 x788 >> >> -- This account not approved for unencrypted proprietary information -- >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Puppet Developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to puppet-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/CANs%2BFoUTk6FrGRWtthFJK9doATAmNdLoisHUrMh7eh-6kzHTmg%40mail.gmail.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/CANs%2BFoUTk6FrGRWtthFJK9doATAmNdLoisHUrMh7eh-6kzHTmg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-dev+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-dev/43f9ca7f-b8c8-4eea-97f8-efa5fb39fe74%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
