David Schmitt wrote:
[crossposting to puppet-dev, please trim follow-ups appropriately]

On 3/16/2010 11:52 AM, Jesús Couto wrote:


On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Michael DeHaan
<mich...@reductivelabs.com <mailto:mich...@reductivelabs.com>> wrote:

     > that are very much procedural while Puppet manifest are more
     > useful on a description of required software level.

    Sort of.

    The long story is that we don't have a really native feeling way to
    model multinode deployments and workflow now, but we can think of
    modeling it based on a set of checkpoint conditions.


On a complete pipe-dream, "I'm not the one with the skills to do this"
comment, I think it would be great to extend the Puppet language toward
"site" configurations. As exported resources, but more. If you could
define, say, an "application" resource that is not on a node but on
several nodes, that would model the application - this app is this and
this running on those 2 servers who are on loadbalancing and this and
that on those other 2, and the parts on the webservers requires the
parts on the appservers that requires the parts on the database
servers...dont know at what level could it be modeled to be flexible
enough and not one size "deploy" model for all, but the idea would be to
make it like Puppet goes from "let me script this" to "let me describe
how it should be", with you describing your application structucture and
relationships and such.



If you want to prototype something like this, you can use a define outside of a node in the site.pp and use checks against $fqdn to distribute resources among hosts.

Maybe even use the external_resource type that's currently floating around to sequence the deployment.


Which leads me to another idea: inter-node dependencies:

| node a { mysql_db { "foo": ... } }
|
| node b { app { "x": after => A>>Mysql_db["foo"]; } }


(please ignore the crude syntax)


Best Regards, David
I don't immediately see it in my dev list, but I'll take your word for it. I am with you on the inter-node dependencies.

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