On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 7:57 PM, Robin Lee Powell <rlpow...@digitalkingdom.org> wrote: > > So, I started with puppet about two years ago (December 2008). At > the time, I was under the impression that the list of Types would > grow a lot (i.e. > http://docs.puppetlabs.com/references/stable/type.html ). In fact, > the file type says: > > If you find that you are often copying files in from a central > location, rather than using native resources, please contact > Puppet Labs and we can hopefully work with you to develop a native > resource to support what you are doing. > > The thing is, that list hasn't actually changed all that much as far > as I can recall. > > Instead, what seems to have happened is a lot of user-made modules > as the code re-use unit; using the native features of puppet > (i.e. lots of file{...} and exec{...}) to emulate new types, > essentially; see > http://projects.puppetlabs.com/projects/puppet/wiki/Puppet_Modules > > I don't mean this as any kind of criticism, I'm just wondering if > this was on purpose? > > The goal with puppet seemed to be a simple, declarative > configuration system, where as many things as possible were handled > with native types, and that doesn't seem to be how things have > actually gone, and I'm wondering if this represents an injection of > pragmatism or a deliberate decision.
I don't think there's anything deliberate there. We don't have native Ruby libraries for many of the things sysadmins need to do, and so even when you write a Ruby type/provider, you're often execing out to external binaries anyway. Given the barrier to writing anything in Ruby is higher than doing the same thing in Puppet DSL, I think it's reasonable that people are collecting execs and files together to achieve something concrete. Also I think people have often come to the conclusion that they need several related types in a given problem domain, and so it becomes natural that they distribute these as a module. > > -Robin > > -- > http://singinst.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > Lojban (http://www.lojban.org/): The language in which "this parrot > is dead" is "ti poi spitaki cu morsi", but "this sentence is false" > is "na nei". My personal page: http://www.digitalkingdom.org/rlp/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Puppet Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to puppet-us...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To post to this group, send email to puppet-us...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en.
