Hey Geoff,

We actually had a talk about this.  There is this code that will help catch
that scenario FOR NOW -->
https://github.com/puppetlabs/hiera-puppet/pull/23

I believe this is a bug and should DEFINITELY be fixed in source.  Until
then, the 'safe_hiera()' function allows you to make this check.



On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:21 PM, Geoff Davis <gada...@ucsd.edu> wrote:

> Alas that doesn't work as the manifest fails to compile properly without
> the /etc/puppet/hiera.yaml file being there.
>
> Nan's code does provide defaults for the hiera lookups similar to what you
> are doing below, but the compiler balks before they are even evaluated.
>
> Here's the version of staging/init.pp that generated the error below:
> https://github.com/nanliu/puppet-staging/blob/5e1a8763ae36c2ea21c0a5b6a1f0e586e077f0fd/manifests/init.pp
>
> Note that all of the hiera calls have defaults.
>
> Geoff Davis
> Scripps Institution of Oceanography
> gada...@ucsd.edu, (858) 822-5756
>
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Gary Larizza wrote:
>
> Hey Geoff,
>
> I see that as two separate steps (Is Hiera enabled and is Hiera
> configured).  I think the function satisfies the former, but you might want
> to write your own check for the latter (as each person probably interprets
> 'configured' differently).  You could do a check like:
>
> if function_available('hiera') and hiera('hiera_enabled', false) {
>   <do something with hiera>
> } else {
>   <do something without hiera>
> }
>
> This would do a hiera lookup for a parameter 'hiera_enabled' that could be
> set in your common/global.yaml file (while defaulting to false if it's not
> found).
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Geoff Davis <gada...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>
>> I've found a potential issue, but I'm not sure if this is within the
>> scope of function_available or not.
>>
>> The vagrant basebox I'm using actually does ship with puppet-hiera, but
>> there's no /etc/puppet/hiera.yaml
>>
>> Thus, even though function_available('hiera') returns true, the function
>> isn't actually usable:
>>
>> Hiera config file /etc/puppet/hiera.yaml not readable at
>> /tmp/vagrant-puppet/modules-0/staging/manifests/init.pp:31 on node
>> centos-6-vagrant.vagrantup.com
>>
>> Is there a way to check whether the function is actually usable as well?
>>
>> Geoff Davis
>> Scripps Institution of Oceanography
>> gada...@ucsd.edu, (858) 822-5756
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:56 AM, Ken Barber wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to review this now. Its destined for master, so someone from
>> the release team can probably comment on the next major release
>> schedule for stdlib.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Geoff Davis <gada...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>
>> That's what I'm looking for. I'll fold in that branch into my testing
>> until
>>
>> it goes mainline.
>>
>>
>> Any ETA on it going mainline?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Nigel Kersten wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Geoff Davis <gada...@ucsd.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I'm doing some work on module development inside of a Vagrant VM of CentOS
>>
>> 6.2. This VM has the community version of Puppet installed (2.7.13 I
>> think),
>>
>> but that doesn't include Hiera by default.
>>
>>
>> My module is dependent on Nan Liu's puppet-staging module, which requires
>>
>> hiera. This puts me into the proverbial chicken and egg problem of not
>>
>> having a puppet function but also not being able to install it with
>> puppet,
>>
>> since my manifests don't compile due to the hiera function not being
>>
>> available.
>>
>>
>> Right now, I'm doing a manual bootstrap of a new vagrant box with a
>>
>> dedicated Puppet manifest that calls another one of Nan's modules,
>>
>> puppet-hiera, to install hiera on the Vagrant VM, but I'd rather use the
>>
>> same manifest for both bootstrap and module testing. I don't care if it
>>
>> takes two passes to converge, I just don't want a freshly booted Vagrant
>> box
>>
>> to complain because it can't compile it's manifest.
>>
>>
>> Is there a relatively foolproof way to determine if Puppet has a function
>>
>> available to it or not? Is there a "has_function" function available in
>> the
>>
>> Puppet DSL, or is there a check that I could roll into a fact that works
>>
>> cross-platform and between Puppet Enterprise and Community?
>>
>>
>>
>> There's a pending pull request in the stdlib module for adding a
>>
>> function_available function
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppetlabs-stdlib/pull/59
>>
>>
>>
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