On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 5:07 AM, felix <crucialfe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ah ! thanks
>
> before:
>
> puppet:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 0.25.4-2ubuntu6.7
>   Version table:
>      0.25.4-2ubuntu6.7 0
>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Packages
>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main Packages
>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>      0.25.4-2ubuntu6 0
>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
>
> after apt-get update
>
> puppet:
>   Installed: (none)
>   Candidate: 2.7.14-1puppetlabs1
>   Version table:
>      2.7.14-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.13-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.12-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.11-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.9-1puppetlabs3 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.9-1puppetlabs2 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.8-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.7-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.7.6-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      2.6.14-1puppetlabs1 0
>         500 http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ lucid/main Packages
>      0.25.4-2ubuntu6.7 0
>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main Packages
>         500 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main Packages
>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>      0.25.4-2ubuntu6 0
>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main Packages
>
>
> though I think I might stick with the rubygems install as I have gotten that
> to work now.
>
> its the lucid version of rubygems that doesn't fully work, so I installed
> that from source:
>
> cd /usr/local/src
> sudo wget http://production.cf.rubygems.org/rubygems/rubygems-1.5.2.tgz
> sudo tar -xzf rubygems-1.5.2.tgz
> cd rubygems-1.5.2
> sudo ruby setup.rb
> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/gem gem /usr/bin/gem1.8 1
> sudo gem update --system
>
> and now re-installing the gem seems to have installed puppet puppetd
> puppetmaster etc in /usr/bin/
>
> but maybe sticking with the package manager is better ?
> it seems like ruby community doesn't work so well with the standard package
> managers,
> and gems are more up to date.

In my opinion, the native package experience is *much* better than
rubygems.  Rubygems doesn't allow for many of the things that puppet
needs all that easily (user creation, files in /etc, init scripts,
etc).  Plus the native packages are designed to work more with the
ruby found on the OS rather than whatever the ruby was that gem
authors designed.

Puppet as a gem, is tested against many rubies and paths, but just
can't quite be as good of an experience as a native package.  Now that
Puppet Labs maintains native packages with every release, I hope there
isn't much of a need to user rubygems on Debian or RPM based systems.
We also have packages for Windows and Mac.


>
> some of my machines are approaching end of life for lucid.
>
> but then one of the goals of using puppet is to make it easy to jump to a
> new machine.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:48:43 PM UTC+2, Martin Alfke wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 22.05.2012, at 13:08, felix wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Ubuntu Lucid has a very outdated puppet, 0.25.4
>>
>> according to:
>>
>> http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/puppetlabs_package_repositories.html#for-debian-and-ubuntu
>>
>> I did this to "enable the repository":
>>
>> wget http://apt.puppetlabs.com/puppetlabs-release_1.0-3_all.deb
>> sudo dpkg -i puppetlabs-release_1.0-3_all.deb
>>
>> but this still does not result in installing an up to date puppet
>>
>> apt-get remove puppet
>> apt-get install puppet
>>
>>
>> Did you run
>>    apt-get update
>> after enabling the puppetlabs repository?
>>
>> What versions are shown when running
>>   apt-cache policy puppet
>> ?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>> Setting up puppet (0.25.4-2ubuntu6.7) .
>>
>>
>> I tried installing via gems:
>>
>> sudo gem install puppet
>>
>> which does give:
>>
>> Successfully installed puppet-2.7.14
>>
>> but /usr/bin/puppet -V still gives 0.25.4
>>
>> If I apt-get remove puppet then there is no longer a /usr/bin/puppet at
>> all and there is no puppet on my path.
>>
>> I find something on a pastebin somewhere:
>>
>> /bin/ln -s /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/puppet /usr/bin/puppet
>>
>> but surely this can't be the recommended way to install.
>>
>> or am I supposed to have /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/ on my path ?
>>
>> gems was installed with:
>>
>> apt-get install rubygems
>>
>> Obviously I'm not a ruby person, and I've just read the rubygems docs
>> regarding versions and why its not on the path. ("onerous")
>>
>> But how is puppet supposed to use it, what is recommended practice ?
>> I don't want it on MY path since it won't be my user running the puppet
>> agent.
>> Its already tedious installing puppet on each server in this fashion.
>>
>> thanks for any advice !
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/UGqdE7rL
>>
>>
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