On May 24, 2013, at 1:53 AM, Greg Sutcliffe <greg.sutcli...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've hit this, but it's because I have the main Puppetlabs repo in my preseed > file for new virtual machines, so it's available within the installer > environment. That's just text, so I only have a line for "deb > http://apt.puppetlabs.com <distro> main" > > I think the "install a deb which sets up the repos" is good for most people, > but there should always be the docs for the manual apt setup for those going > a different route. As of right now, I don't see a "dependencies" repo > mentioned anywhere on the page you linked, Eric > > I'll also add a voice the question on the logic behind a separate > dependencies repo, although only because you're adding work to your > documentation requirements ;) > Hi Greg, thanks for the info -- I slightly disagree that the docs should describe manual installation; IMO they should describe supported/official ways to do things, because anything that's documented gets interpreted as being supported and official :) That said, we could punch up the importance of including the deps repository. It's been necessary for EL users for a long time, but this was the first Puppet release that pulled in a hard dependency for Debian-based systems. There's an administrative reason and a technical reason for the dependencies repo: 1. administratively, it indicates which packages are derived from puppetlabs-owned repos vs upstream projects 2. technically, those packages can be provided by other sources so the separate repo keeps them from cross-polluting your system. As an extreme but real-world example the EL5 dependencies repo contains an updated Ruby package, and it'd be surprising/dangerous to update Ruby on everyone's system when they thought they were just getting Puppet. We'll do a better job in the future of (a) pointing out the necessity of the dependencies repo in the release notes (b) featuring the Upgrading guide ( http://docs.puppetlabs.com/guides/upgrading.html ) more prominently, as it has best practice for safe upgrading (PS I'll note for the record, that page says: "We highly recommend avoiding unintentional upgrades." and goes into detail about how to do that.) Eric Sorenson - eric.soren...@puppetlabs.com #puppet irc: eric0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to puppet-users@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/puppet-users?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
