On Wednesday, June 26, 2013 3:37:10 PM UTC+2, jcbollinger wrote:
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> On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 4:49:49 PM UTC-5, Alessandro Franceschi wrote:
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>> On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 9:16:20 PM UTC+2, jcbollinger wrote:
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>>> So, here is a version of puppet-stdmod without class parameterization: 
>>> https://github.com/jcbollinger/puppet-stdmod .
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>> Ok, this is what I expected.
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> Of course it is.  I told you in advance what it was going to be.
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>> Thank you for your time.
>> I can definitively argue that this is not fully reusable
>>   ("So please show me a reusable module without parameters and without 
>> hiera functions inside, as that would not be reusable by whoever does not 
>> use Hiera.")
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> And I rejected that standard of reusability, for sound reasons that you 
> did not rebut.  Since we are closing off that line of discussion, we will 
> have to agree to disagree.
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Actually I DID rebut and anticipated them. That module would not work on at 
least ten different Puppet setups where I've worked and Hiera was not used.
But, promise, I won't come back on this, let's happily disagree :-) 


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>> Yes,
>> let's go on.
>> I guess the first steps should be to identify a coherent naming pattern, 
>> even before single names and define more precisely what parameters might be 
>> recommended, optional, or considered "extensions" . 
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> Before any decision is made on naming patterns -- or at least in 
> conjunction with that -- don't you think we should come to grips with the 
> patterns of data to which we hope to assign names?  The Google doc does 
> address that topic, at least implicitly, but I think we should be satisfied 
> with the coverage and characterization of the data, else we cannot be 
> confident that the chosen names are the most appropriate ones.  I will 
> devote some attention to that, but I hope I will not be the only one to do 
> so.
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Good point.
In the doc I placed some possible examples on where to assign names, but 
more (or remarks on the ones listed) cases are welcomed.
(Let me have your email for an invitation to edit)

Btw, comments and access to:
https://docs.google.com/a/lab42.it/document/d/1D4OqEI5iuGJe63ODU91N6rnFKcxVAg1sAWbaQrGBlWA
is open to everybody, and whoever writes modules should be somehow 
concerned.
At the moment the discussion seems limited to very few people (even if I 
know various others are silently lurking :-)

The same place of the document is to be considered temporary.

Al

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