On Tue, 1 May 2018, at 21:34, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > That is tragic for MCollective (and other things at Puppet). I hope it can > be maintained outside of Puppet umbrella (where things go to die), and have > integration/migration docs/tools later.
I am the original author/architect of mcollective, choria is my project and its well funded so things will continue, though choria is a very different project - has a compatibility layer for mco agents but its goals will diverge a bit in time. Choria runs on ~ 200k systems for my and I am very happy with where its headed, users seem happy and we're getting some pretty good out of the box end user features which is something mco never had I'll start focussing a lot more on things like self managing clusters and such - the interactive layer and playbooks and such will be there but I think as a discipline we need to move on from centralised orchestration and focus a lot more on self managing clusters, so a lot is going on there. Think k8s operators, habitat etc and there's a lot of research to do there still Also am very keen on IoT and have some clients looking there, choria is fully embeddable in golang projects and runs a charm on things like raspberry pis etc and I have a in-progress protocols for super light weight stuff like arduino wall plugs and such - bringing cluster management and life cycle management to that etc. You can literally go 'mco rpc wallplug off' and it transparently does protocol translation onto super tiny devices with only a couple k of mem etc anyway, we have a #choria channel on puppet slack happy to discuss there, I've been fleshing out the content on choria.io a bit too this week > I noticed that Salt Stack had striking similarities. Any thoughts on diffs > MCollective vs. Salt Stack vs. Choria? I ask this not from marketing bs, > but real get down to the nerd enthusiasts perspective. As I wrote mcollective, I'll avoid comparisons personally > > On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 11:19:46 PM UTC-7, R.I. Pienaar wrote: > > > > > > On 1 May 2018, at 08:04, Joaquin Menchaca <joaqu...@gmail.com > > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > Both Choria and Jerakia look awesome. I am so glad these awesome folks > > are still innovating. I will explore these after my pilot project. They > > look useful outside of Puppet, especially Jerakia, I can see using this > > across CAP (Chef-Ansible-Puppet). > > > > Whatever happened to MCollective? That sort of went to Puppet and died. > > I remember the book I picked up at an PupetConf said the tool was support > > to be orchestrator for both Puppet and Chef. > > > > > > Yeah that’s roughly what happened. Those testing out the Puppet 6 nightly > > will notice mcollective is not in puppet agent anymore > > > > > > Choria as the site suggests is both modernising mcollective to make it > > usable to today’s open source user and also redeveloping huge parts of it > > and adding new end user features. It will provide a trivially installable > > way to keep using it post the packaging change in puppet agent. So it’s not > > like it’s going away. > > > > As for puppet/chef etc support. It does, and have always, support other CM > > or indeed no CM. Given that I had to make it usable on my own again I out > > of realities of available time had to focus on one CM tool to fix the > > installation story first > > > > That’s not to say it does not support living in other ones it’s just not > > as turnkey easy > > > > Someone in the community can totally write some cookbooks to install and > > deploy it la plugins and it will work > > > > This will become easier soon as the new choria daemons are 1 binary but we > > will see how that turns out. > > > > > > > > For my main scope, I want to use minimum method for data injection, so > > maybe bolt or hiera. It's interesting that this is not something easy on > > Puppet, and that Puppet really doesn't have variables (really connstants), > > so the original design was data was embedded into the module. The > > parameters is fills the role of variables that can be overridden. > > > > Wait, Dayyyuuuum.. Jerakia can Consul... WOW. > > > > > > On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 1:28:21 PM UTC-7, Andreas Zuber wrote: > >> > >> On 04/30/2018 06:29 PM, Joaquin Menchaca wrote: > >> > > >> > Bolt has me curious. I have dabbled around with it, running commands > >> or > >> > a script to a remote node. Are there other ways I could use this? > >> > Could I use it to introduce custom facts, or inject values into > >> > puppetdb? hiera? The docs are not all that intuitive (had to step > >> > through gem source code to discern how to use ssh transport for my > >> > environment). > >> > >> Have a look at https://choria.io/docs/playbooks/basics/ . Like Bolt it > >> can run puppet tasks, but you can also write whole plans in the puppet > >> language to orchestrate a cluster. > >> > >> It is super easy to setup with the modules provided and is based on > >> mcollective which already comes with the puppet AIO package. > >> > >> Regards > >> Andreas > >> > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Puppet Users" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to puppet-users...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/f5610774-cdd4-4dc6-ab7d-31839f945943%40googlegroups.com > > > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/f5610774-cdd4-4dc6-ab7d-31839f945943%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Puppet Users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to puppet-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/puppet-users/361ecaa7-8122-492a-8347-faf117d930ca%40googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- R.I.Pienaar / www.devco.net / @ripienaar -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Puppet Users" group. 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