> On 18. Jul 2018, at 00:43, Eric Sorenson <e...@puppet.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 2:26 AM, Martin Alfke <tux...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17. Jul 2018, at 01:40, Eric Sorenson <e...@puppet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So my question is -
>>> - do you current use/rely on 'gem install puppet' for your workflows? If
>>> so, what do you do with it? (does anybody use a 'gem install puppet' as
>>> their production "puppet agent" daemon?)
>>
>> We install puppet as a gem in CI/CD unit testing.
>>
>
> Hi Martin! Does this use depend on types and providers in puppet's lib/
> directory? Or is it just having the core puppet code available?
AFAIK it is needed to compile the catalog using rspec-puppet. (I hope I am
right on this).
On acceptance testing (with beaker) we install the OS puppet-agent package.
>
>
>>> - given the above, what would be the easiest/most intuitive way to get
>>> those extracted types into your puppet installation? some ideas we've
>>> kicked around are
>>> * a puppet type 'meta module' that, akin to a rpm/deb metapackage, doesn't
>>> have content, just dependencies on the actual modules at particular pinned
>>> versions that match the agent package versions
>>> * a Puppetfile that you could point r10k at to get the modules installed
>>> * individual gems for each of the extracted modules with Gemfile
>>> dependencies (note: this is a Bad Idea™)
>>
>> We need at least a note how we have to add the module with the separated
>> types/providers.
>
> Yes absolutely
>
>>
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>> --eric0
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jul 16, 2018, at 10:20 AM, Josh Cooper <j...@puppet.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to share some significant developments as we progress towards a
>>>> Puppet Platform 6 release. I encourage you to try out nightly builds
>>>> available in the puppet6 repos:
>>>>
>>>> http://nightlies.puppet.com/yum/puppet6-nightly/
>>>> http://nightlies.puppet.com/apt/puppet6-nightly/
>>>> http://nightlies.puppet.com/downloads/{mac,windows}/puppet6-nightly/
>>>>
>>>> 1. Unvendoring Semantic Puppet
>>>>
>>>> Previously, the puppet repo, puppet-agent and puppetserver
>>>> vendored/packaged different versions of the semantic_puppet gem. We've
>>>> untangled that mess so that in Platform 6:
>>>>
>>>> * puppet has a runtime gem dependency on the semantic_puppet gem
>>>> * puppet-agent bundles the semantic_puppet 1.0.2 gem
>>>> * puppetserver no longer knows about puppet's transitive gem dependencies
>>>> * we can bump the semantic_puppet version in puppet-agent in the future
>>>> without breaking puppetserver running on the same host. The same is true
>>>> for other puppet runtime gem dependencies like fast_gettext and multi_json.
>>>>
>>>> See https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PA-1880 for more details.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Puppet Platform 6 requires Ruby 2.3
>>>>
>>>> Puppet Platform 6 requires Ruby 2.3 or up, so we can now use modern syntax
>>>> such as keyword arguments, dig, squiggly heredocs, etc. Puppet will error
>>>> when running on unsupported ruby versions such as 2.2, which went EOL on
>>>> March 31, 2018.
>>>>
>>>> Since puppetserver runs puppet code in a JRuby interpreter and JRuby 1.7
>>>> conforms to the 1.9.3 Ruby language, we first had to move puppetserver
>>>> from JRuby 1.7 to 9K. In Platform 5, we made it possible to opt into using
>>>> JRuby 9K. In Platform 6, we will drop JRuby 1.7 and only support JRuby
>>>> 9.1.x.x, which conforms to Ruby 2.3.
>>>>
>>>> To ensure puppet code does not break puppetserver/JRuby, we've started
>>>> running puppet PRs against JRuby 9K in TravisCI.
>>>>
>>>> See https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/PUP-6893 and
>>>> https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/SERVER-2155 for more details.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Intermediate CA improvements
>>>>
>>>> Currently, customers can set up Puppet to use an intermediate CA by
>>>> manually generating and distributing certificates and keys, installing
>>>> them in the proper locations on disk, for both the master and agent. This
>>>> is time intensive, error prone, and even once these certs have been put in
>>>> place, full validation using CRL chains was not possible.
>>>>
>>>> For Puppet 6, we we are making both tooling and functionality improvements
>>>> to this process. In this increment, we have implemented full validation
>>>> with chained certificates and CRLs, and we have changed the agent-side SSL
>>>> bootstrapping to automatically download these full chains from the master
>>>> and store and use them appropriately. It is now no longer necessary for
>>>> intermediate CA users to manually distribute SSL files to their agents. On
>>>> the server side, we are working to create a puppetserver CLI for setting
>>>> up and interacting with the CA. See
>>>> https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/SERVER-2171.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Server-stack containerization
>>>>
>>>> We’ve been working primarily on the automation and tooling to improve
>>>> building and shipping updated containers for the Puppet Platform server
>>>> components (puppetserver, puppetdb, and r10k). The build tooling for these
>>>> containers has moved into the individual project repos, and we’re getting
>>>> very close to having containers that will auto-publish to dockerhub.
>>>>
>>>> We also have a number of workflow improvements planned for running the
>>>> server stack in a containerized environment. That work will be beginning
>>>> in the near future.
>>>>
>>>> See https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/CPR-560 and
>>>> https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/CPR-592 for more details on the
>>>> ongoing and upcoming work.
>>>>
>>>> 5. MCollective has been removed
>>>>
>>>> For Puppet Enterprise users, we’ve already been recommending the new
>>>> orchestrator for some time. Last summer, we introduced Bolt and Tasks. We
>>>> feel these technologies solve most of the problems MCollective did, and
>>>> are removing it from the puppet-agent so that we can focus on other
>>>> engineering efforts.
>>>>
>>>> While we’d obviously love to see everyone move to Tasks, if you depend
>>>> strongly on MCollective then it is still maintained by R.I.Pienaar at
>>>> https://choria.io.
>>>>
>>>> 6. Includes the Resource API
>>>>
>>>> The Resource API provides a simple way to create new native resources in
>>>> the form of types and providers for Puppet. Using a little bit of ruby,
>>>> you can finally get rid of that brittle exec, or manage that one API that
>>>> eluded you until now.
>>>>
>>>> See https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-resource_api and
>>>> https://github.com/puppetlabs/puppet-specifications for more details on
>>>> how to use it.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Josh Cooper | Software Engineer
>>>> j...@puppet.com | @coopjn
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