@J bz - No, I was not able to install from the installer, though I had issues installing Debian 6 via usb/unetbootin also so I'm curious if it was my hardware.
So who packages pd for pure:dyne then? I'd be curious to know the reasons for not using pd-extended instead of pd... On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancs...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Pd extended includes: > * a patched source so that it can include [initbang]-- which, among other > things, > allows you to create abstractions that have variable inlets/outlets (like > [route] does)-- > and [closebang]-- which sends a bang immediately before deleting its parent > canvas. > * opaque object boxes (they are light grey, I think) and lighter grey > borders. > * visual difference between signal inlets/outlets and control > inlets/outlets (very helpful IMO). > * different default fonts (I think) > > There's also Pd-l2ork, which includes Pd extended source patches plus: > * iemguis ([bng], [vslider], etc.) which can be resized with the mouse (and > labels can be > moved with mouse, too) > * way more effecient redrawing of gui objects and "Put" menu arrays > * patch that maps "$@" to expand to all arguments (from the parent patch if > abstraction, > incoming message if msg box) > * more consistent Gnome-like look and feel in linux > * right-click and choose "move to back/front" to change an object's z order > * improved cyclone objects > * magic glass (hover over a connection and see the message currently being > passed > over it) > * max-style trigger that takes numeric args (like [pack] ) > * notification when element of a "Put" menu array is changed > * no crash when a patch sends a message to close itself, better scrolling, > lots of other > fixes > > Both include PDDP docs by default, which I've been working on for some time > now. > > Btw- I made a search gui-plugin in 0.43 that takes advantage of all the > tags I added to > core docs and (many) external help files. So now you can search for > objects by keyword, > author, description, and even inlet/outlet specs (e.g., find an object that > takes a symbol at its > left inlet and outputs a list). > > -Jonathan > > --- On *Fri, 6/24/11, J bz <jbee...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: J bz <jbee...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [puredyne] Puredata vs. Pd-extended > To: "puredyne" <puredyne@goto10.org> > Date: Friday, June 24, 2011, 11:25 AM > > > Hi Tyler, > > Excuse me for hijacking your thread somewhat: > > Have you managed to install? I couldn't get the shortcut to respond, > though it runs nice off usb for me too. > > I'm not involved in packaging pure data at all but my gut feelings are > that: > 1. Running vanilla allows for a quicker update cycle. > 2. Less bloat. > 3. My preference is that vanilla is more aesthetically pleasing somehow. > 4. Historic reasons: pde was far less stable a few years ago, plus had > problems with some libraries and objects not loading - nameclashes etc. > Indeed it's still the case with some libs in pde now (vbap springs to mind). > > Pd comes with what the devs believe are the most useful libs with many > extra just waiting to be added to the .pdrc. > > Of course any extra libs you need can be compiled quite easily for pd but > some of them can be tricky - I attempted to install 'cyclone' a few months > ago and just gave up when it became a PITA. > > One final thought, and it's something I have never heard anyone discuss at > all but I have wondered about: Is there some Euro-centric thing that > vanilla is somehow 'cooler' (for want of a better word) than pde?:) > > I recently ran a project on pde and have since installed pddp into my > machine. So much better set of help files I think. > > All good wishes, > > Julian > > > > On 23 June 2011 23:33, Tyler Leavitt > <thecryofl...@gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=thecryofl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > Hello list, > > So I'm writing this on a first boot of Puredyne 10.10 DVD-i386 alpha-4 > live. Everything looks great... unetbootin installed it flawlessly and it > booted nice and quick. Now to install... > > My question, however, is regarding the relation between the Puredata that > comes with pure:dyne and Pd-extended. What are the differences between the > two as far as externals that are packaged? Is there a reason you don't just > supply pd-extended? Or is it the pure:dyne version just pd-extended with the > older branding? > > Thanks, > Tyler > > --- > Puredyne@goto10.org <http://mc/compose?to=Puredyne@goto10.org> > http://identi.ca/group/puredyne > irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > --- > Puredyne@goto10.org <http://mc/compose?to=Puredyne@goto10.org> > http://identi.ca/group/puredyne > irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne > > > --- > Puredyne@goto10.org > http://identi.ca/group/puredyne > irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne >
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