Hola Gilberto! Thanks for contributing here....
I agree that this place, and group is not really the right context for loaded conversation. I do not want to make this a larger or more disruptive conversational tangent.. If you'd like to discuss this further with ME, my email address is in my sig. and I'd be more than happy to continue the conversation off list. THAT BEING SAID, I believe Stephan's response was rather mature. I may not agree with his perspective/opinion; however neither can I justly make the assertion that he was hostile or childish. He expressed his opinion clearly and initially quite dispassionately. I'm inclined to say that given how strongly he clearly feels about the subject, he DID act quite maturely. When I pushed, his response wasn't filled with hate or insults, but reason, and it is clear that his INTENTION is to clearly share his perspective. Honestly? I really appreciate him sharing this perspective. The situation unfolding around the world hurts us all. I think it's fair to say that everyone is impacted by it, and has a right to their own perspective on it. Where the rubber meets the road here, however, is how does this list chooses to handle things like this. I'd make the assertion that it is hard if not impossible, for any of us to have sufficient context around any other listmembers be able to say we KNOW the perspective, intention and purpose behind using the softwares they're asking for help with. As such, I believe that attempting to sanction support based on that perceived intended purpose isn't terribly likely to be a net positive effort for anyone on the list. Regardless... I respect each of y'alls opinions. and I ask that for the sake of the list lets not throw stones at each other. There is more than enough bullshit in the world as it is right now. Lets not add more to it? With nothing but respect, and a sincere desire for peace and harmony, personally, technically, and professionally amongst all of us. ❤️🐺W- Wolf Noble Hoof & Paw [email protected] [= The contents of this message have been written, read, processed, erased, sorted, sniffed, compressed, rewritten, misspelled, overcompensated, lost, found, and most importantly delivered entirely with recycled electrons =] > On Jul 23, 2022, at 11:37 AM, Gilberto Ferreira <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Guys > I just can't believe I read such a thing here! > Com'n! It's time to grow up, do you think? > Sometimes, the dollar value here in my country is very high! > That's a good reason for me not to support a dude that asks for help, > because he is an american citizen! > Please, be rational and act like a man not like a kid. By the way, I think > a kid could be more adult in this matter. > --- > Gilberto Nunes Ferreira > > > > > > > Em sáb., 23 de jul. de 2022 às 13:28, Stephan Leemburg < > [email protected]> escreveu: > >> Hi Wolf, >> >> Just one reply to - hopefully - make myself clear. >> >> And sorry, English is not my mother language, so I hope it is clear enough. >> >> On 22-07-2022 23:43, Wolf Noble wrote: >> >>> Hi Stephan, >>> >>> >>> PERSONALLY, >>> I applaud the intention of not supporting bad actors/aggressive >> poeple.... However, I feel it's unreasonably judgmental. >>> >>> Not everyone in .ru is an incredible jerk. >> >> I totally agree. I think most people in .ru are honest and nice people. >> I know Russian people in my country that I consider to be friends. Even >> if their idea's are different from mine. >> >> I have no negative judgement towards the people of Russia or Belarus. In >> the contrary. >> >> These people - from my perspective - are living in a suppressive >> environment. They receive information, by state controlled 'journalism'. >> >> The quality, accuracy and factuality of that information is very >> doubtfull in my perspective. >> >> There are even absolute hero's in these countries. More hero than I will >> probably ever be. >> >> They put themselfes, their relatives and their future in absolute and >> terrifying danger by opposition. >> >> And - yes - I do have negative judgments on their 'leaders'. >> >>> Many of our countries' leaders have been.... shall we say... not the >> greatest hunmans? >> I completely agree. Also in the Netherlands most politicians are >> untrustworthy liars. >>> I feel that it's important to treat *INDIVIDUALS* fairly, regardless of >> where they are, or what they do. >>> >>> IMO, EVERYONE deserves to be treated with respect (until they prove >> otherwise)... >> >> And - yes again - every individual should receive respect. I do not >> think I was unrespectfull in my first post. I did not attack the >> original poster. >> >> BUT: the original poster is working for a Russian company. He is asking >> support for this company. >> >> This company or it's products maybe used be the Russian government. By >> supporting Russian companies, we support the outrageous war that war >> criminal Putin has invoked. And his nucleair blackmail. >> >>> so I'd prefer that we not, as a rule, blanketly exclude ANYONE from >> participation in these, or any other forums. >> >> For me as a blanket rule, I do not want to exclude individuals. But I do >> not want support for companies in Russia or Belarus. >> >> Supporting companies is supporting the unlawful war against a sovereign >> nation that is now being bombarded, destroyed and innocent people >> getting killed. >> >> That is my point. >> >>> >>> Now, if a list member behaves in a fashion that indicates that they >> specifically are aggressive humans with mal-intent, >>> I wholly support protecting the users of the list from hateful with a >> banhammer.... >> >> The list member did not behave badly. But he is asking for support while >> doing work for a Russian company. >> >> We should not support that in my opinion. We should not support an >> outrageous war where the rights of civilians are violated by killing them. >> >> Killing civilians like is happening now is a crime of war. >> >> There is also EU legislation about giving support to Russian and Belarus. >> >>> just my $.03. >>> Thanks for reading. Hope you're well and safe. >> >> Thank you for your reply. >> >> I have carfully read it and I hope my reply makes my point of view more >> clear, knowing that communicating by mail and over the boundaries of >> cultures make it difficult. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Stephan >> >>> >>> ❤️🐺W >>> >>> Wolf Noble >>> Hoof & Paw >>> [email protected] >>> >>> [= The contents of this message have been written, read, processed, >> erased, sorted, sniffed, compressed, rewritten, misspelled, >> overcompensated, lost, found, and most importantly delivered entirely with >> recycled electrons =] >>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2022, at 10:47 AM, Stephan Leemburg < >> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi list, hi Proxmox, >>>> >>>> Has someone looked at the domainname of the original poster? >>>> >>>> And the website? >>>> >>>> host www.t8.ru <http://www.t8.ru/> >>>> >>>> www.t8.ru <http://www.t8.ru/> has address 195.208.1.108 >>>> >>>> >>>> host t8.ru <http://t8.ru/> >>>> T8.ru <http://t8.ru/> has address 195.208.1.108 >>>> t8.ru <http://t8.ru/> mail is handled by 30 mx01.lancloud.ru < >> http://mx01.lancloud.ru/>. >>>> t8.ru <http://t8.ru/> mail is handled by 10 mx02.lancloud.ru < >> http://mx02.lancloud.ru/>. >>>> t8.ru <http://t8.ru/> mail is handled by 5 mx01.lancloud.ru < >> http://mx01.lancloud.ru/>. >>>> t8.ru <http://t8.ru/> mail is handled by 20 mx03.lancloud.ru < >> http://mx03.lancloud.ru/>. >>>> >>>> geoiplookup 195.208.1.108 >>>> Continent : Europe [EU] >>>> Registered country : Russia [RU] >>>> Country : Russia [RU] >>>> Coordinates : 37.6°E 55.7°N >>>> Time zone : Europe/Moscow >>>> >>>> It looks like a Russian ISP. Head office in Moscow. >>>> >>>> Is it appropriate to provide technical support to a Russian ISP on this >> list or in any otherway? >>>> >>>> My personal meaning is that it is _not_ appropriate. Supporting such an >> outrageous aggessor. >>>> >>>> Please consider to stop doing that. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> >>>> Stephan >>>> >>>> On 21-07-2022 09:39, Сергей Цаболов wrote: >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> 20.07.2022 20:13, GM пишет: >>>>>> Have you tried to copy a large file directly from the host(s) to the >> nf >>>>>> server, how's the speed on that? >>>>> Yes, I try copy large file iso with rsync and the speed is no more >> than 180MB/s - 210MB/s >>>>>> Have you checked if there's a bandwidth limit set for the backups in >> pve >>>>>> datacenter options? >>>>> Yes, no limits Bandwidth set in Options. >>>>>> Try running a single, manual backup on a specific vm to the nfs >> server, >>>>>> how's its speed compare to the scheduled backups? >>>>> Yes, in GUI I try the start one backup, the speed when start is up >> after is falling to same speed: >>>>> >>>>> In attach is from one host when is start backup and show speed to >> Synology. >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2022 at 10:12, Сергей Цаболов<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, to all. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In our PVE cluster have 5 hosts with ceph storage on all hosts disks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I setup backups to save on Synology with NFS storage. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For 2-3 moths right now backups load very long time and not fast to >>>>>>> finish backup from all hosts. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If we change the MTU from default 1500 on Synology and on hosts to >> 9000 >>>>>>> MTU is possible to make it fast. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Synology and the hosts connect to the Fiber Optic 10GB switch but the >>>>>>> mtu on switch and on the hosts for now is default. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I ping to Synology from hosts : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ping -s 9000 -d 192.168.8.23 >>>>>>> PING 192.168.8.23 (192.168.8.23) 9000(9028) bytes of data. >>>>>>> 9008 bytes from 192.168.8.23: icmp_seq=1 ttl=63 time=1.03 ms >>>>>>> 9008 bytes from 192.168.8.23: icmp_seq=2 ttl=63 time=0.223 ms >>>>>>> 9008 bytes from 192.168.8.23: icmp_seq=3 ttl=63 time=0.229 ms >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the answer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When I test connection with between the hosts PVE connect : >>>>>>> >>>>>>> iperf3 -c 10.10.29.16 >>>>>>> Connecting to host 10.10.29.16, port 5201 >>>>>>> [ 5] local 10.10.29.10 port 51502 connected to 10.10.29.16 port 5201 >>>>>>> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd >>>>>>> [ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.07 GBytes 9.19 Gbits/sec 1089 639 KBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 9.38 Gbits/sec 52 1.17 MBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 9.38 Gbits/sec 0 1.23 MBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 9.37 Gbits/sec 0 1.27 MBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 1.07 GBytes 9.20 Gbits/sec 608 789 KBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 9.38 Gbits/sec 45 1.09 MBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 9.37 Gbits/sec 0 1.26 MBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 1.08 GBytes 9.28 Gbits/sec 411 872 KBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 9.33 Gbits/sec 114 1.14 MBytes >>>>>>> [ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 1.08 GBytes 9.30 Gbits/sec 321 676 KBytes >>>>>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>>>>>> [ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr >>>>>>> [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 10.8 GBytes 9.32 Gbits/sec 2640 >>>>>>> sender >>>>>>> [ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 10.8 GBytes 9.31 Gbits/sec >>>>>>> receiver >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But the speed to backup to NFS is very low. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can some one give me suggestion how I can make faster the NFS >> backup on >>>>>>> hosts (all hosts is now production). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sergey TS >>>>>>> The best Regard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> pve-user mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> pve-user mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> pve-user mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> pve-user mailing list >>>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> pve-user mailing list >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >>> _______________________________________________ >>> pve-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pve-user mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >> > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user _______________________________________________ pve-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user
