On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Lukas Lueg <lukas.l...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> As a package maintainer id find it hard to understand why a opencl wrapper
> has a hard dependency on a templating engine mainly used for Web development

PyCUDA and PyOpenCL are primarily used for GPU run-time code
generation / meta-programming, and especially using templating, so it
might make sense to require a powerful templating engine as a dependency.

What do you think?

N

On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Lukas Lueg <lukas.l...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> As a package maintainer id find it hard to understand why a opencl wrapper
> has a hard dependency on a templating engine mainly used for Web development
>
> Am 2010 12 30 14:07 schrieb "Nicolas Pinto" <nicolas.pi...@gmail.com>:
>
>> +1 on Mako as a 'hard' dependency.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Bogdan Opanchuk <manti...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Andreas,
>>>
>>> I personally do not see anything wrong with 'hard' dependency, as
>>> PyCuda/PyOpenCL have some dependencies already. So, an additional
>>> dependency won't change things qualitatively.
>>>
>>> By the way, are you planning to merge reduction/elementwise code of
>>> PyCuda and PyOpenCL? This will reduce the amount of repeated code (the
>>> kernels for cuda/cl must be practically identical), but will probably
>>> add some overhead and make the code more sophisticated.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Bogdan
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Andreas Kloeckner
>>> <li...@informa.tiker.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've just finished coding up support for reductions on CL arrays in
>>>> pyopencl. The code is in git, under pyopencl.reduction. (Yay!
>>>> Pretty much feature parity with PyCUDA!)
>>>>
>>>> I wrote this code using the Mako [1] templating engine. Writing the same
>>>> code without a templating engine would have been significantly clumsier.
>>>>
>>>> Now of course, this makes the reduction code depend on Mako. The
>>>> question now is how to handle this dependency. Several options exist:
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> 1. Make it a 'hard' dependency, installed by setup.py.
>>>>
>>>> 2. Make it a 'soft' dependency--the reduction code will fail on import
>>>> with a usable error message alerting the user that he needs to install
>>>> Mako.
>>>>
>>>> 3. Try to eliminate the dependency on any particular templating engine
>>>> by rewriting the code.
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> I'd be grateful for your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://www.makotemplates.org/
>>>>
>>>>
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