"J.W. Bizzaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrit:
> François Pinard wrote:
> > I still have to learn `pygtk' usage, and to help me doing so, through an
> > editing session over the Python sources, made myself a compact reminder.
> That's nice. Can we include it in the documentation? What do you
> think, Daniel?
By the way, while doing so, I paid attention for being able to later write
some script to redo the same thing automatically. I did not make that script
yet, but will surely do instead of redoing the job "by hand" the next time.
However, and should I confess, I've be a bit destabilised (:-), going
through mail archives for `pygtk', while reading:
From: James Henstridge
Subject: [pygtk] pyglade/libglade ignores default-width/default-height ?
X-Sent: 2 semaines, 1 heure
I suppose I should put in a message stating that the pyglade module is
deprecated. It is probably better to use the libglade module, which uses
libglade rather than being pure python. It handles the default_width and
default_height attributes correctly.
James.
I'm not much of a mouse man, and was often (but not always) deceived by user
interfaces, where I see a lot of chrome, but not much of engines. It seemed
to me that there is a finite amount of energy an author puts in a program,
and it is unusual that the engine _and_ the user interface are both seducing.
That's why I did not allow me, so far, to invest the massive amounts of
energy which are required to learn X programming, or even C programming of
nicely packaged widget systems. Even if these are far much efficient to
write than pure X, programmer-wise, and surely worth a lot of admiration,
praise, and enthusiasm, I still find these too much distracting. However,
recently, Python has been changing my appreciation of things, and approaches
like `pygtk' brings the user interface burden to acceptable proportions.
At least, for someone who wants to stay primarily interested by engines. :-)
So! After having spent some time studying and trying Tkinter, than PIL,
than revising a lot of messages I saved about various other alternatives at
many graphical levels (I found it somewhat confusing to look at everything
at once), I thought I was doing a good choice betting on the pyglade/pygtk
combination, and now feel rather ready to take a real dive.
However, I do not run Gnome, and would prefer to not ought to change window
managers as well. A new language and a new design spirit is a lot already
for the poor little me, I do not feel like embracing a new religion as well!
I tried both KDE and Gnome for a while, and returned to my previous habits,
probably because I merely failed to quickly see the promised wonders. :-)
However, I repeatedly read on the `pygtk' mailing list archives that
PyGnome (whatever it is :-) is the way to go, yet the same lists report a
lot of build and unstability problems (but maybe I misinterpreted them?).
I merely want to be a satisfied, humble programming user, much more than
a participant in the big adventure of GUI system development, finding the
proper mix of CVS branches that would flawlessly compile in my environment.
Thanks for having read me so far, my friends! :-). In your opinion,
is it really a lost investment for me to rely on `pyglade'? Should I
better have to consider swallowing Gnome as well, and right now? (Fiou!
Shudder and dismay! :-) Could `pygtk' be adequately be used outside Gnome
contexts, at least long enough to let me recover from the time it takes
to become more seriously acquainted with all these new things? Or else,
is there something fundamentally wrong in my attitude? Am I unreasonable?
--
François Pinard http://www.iro.umontreal.ca/~pinard
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