On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Mike Orr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  According to IRC yesterday, appengine doesn't allow C modules, so that
>  takes out Mako, SQLAlchemy, and parts of Paste and Setuptools.  So it
>  will take a while to get any non-trivial Pylons app running on it.
>
>  http://pylonshq.com/irclogs/%23pylons/


Let's be rational about this. I haven't tried app engine yet altough I
have an account (plan to do it this weekend)
but I'm reading a lot of stuff about it.

My bigger concern (putting aside the terms of service for a moment)
is: what's the point in porting existing libraries/frameworks and so
on
to make them work in the google infrastructure?

Maybe I am short sighted but I guess it is too much work having two
different versions of the framework "just for Google".

They chose the language and ported Django, let's try the system for a
while before diving in the realm of forking just for the sake of it.
There's also something else which bothers me, which is explained in
the following use case:

1 - you have an application written in XYZ (Pylons in this case)
2 - it makes use of 10 to 15 libraries (third parties or standard) not supported

-or-

1 - you decide to write it from scratch
2 - you need something not supported

3 - you port the code
4 - you try to maintain the fork following the main version

5 - one day in the future you want to get out from the Google cloud.

Now you have two set of incompatibles stuff and you cannot get out
unless rewriting the same stuff you ported and adapting the code
from the old version.

I guess AppEngine is great, and Alex Martelli will speak about it at
PyCon Italy, but I'm not really sure will be for every and each type
of web app.

-- 
Lawrence, stacktrace.it - oluyede.org - neropercaso.it
"It is difficult to get a man to understand
something when his salary depends on not
understanding it" - Upton Sinclair

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