Hi Al,

based on my experience running align or super with "cycles=0" has the tendency 
to produce inferior alignment results. So depending on how similar the 
conformation of your structures are you may end up with skewed statistics. What 
I've done in the past and for a paper I'm working on now is to run the 
alignment with default parameters to get the best superposition and then 
calculate the statistics by hand from the superposed structures. Not sure if 
cmd.rms() would do this for all residues w/o outlier rejection, so I ended up 
writing code for myself. The colorbyrmsd.py 
(http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/ColorByRMSD) script gives a nice illustration 
on how to approach this this.

Carsten

-----Original Message-----
From: Albert Solernou [mailto:a.soler...@leeds.ac.uk] 
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 10:04 AM
To: Thomas Holder
Cc: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PyMOL] RMS over a MD trajectory.

Thanks Thomas,
I was already printing k[i][3] (RMSD before refinement) instead of k[i][0] 
(RMSD after refinement) but your "cycles=0" looks cleaner.

Cheers,
Albert

On 05/06/2015 05:14 PM, Thomas Holder wrote:
> Hi Albert,
>
> Please pay attention to the difference between all-atom RMSD and RMSD after 
> outlier rejection.
> http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align#RMSD
>
> If your "trj" and "pdb1" have identical topology and matching atom 
> identifiers, then you can also use cmd.rms().
> http://pymolwiki.org/index.php/Rms
>
> Cheers,
>    Thomas
>
> On 06 May 2015, at 11:56, Albert Solernou <a.soler...@leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
>
>> Terribly useful Carsten!
>>
>> I could easily do a loop and get the RMS along the trajectory:
>>   k = []
>>   for i in range(1,101): k.append(cmd.align("trj","pdb1",mobile_state=i))
>>   for i in range(100): print k[i][0]
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Albert
>>
>>
>> On 05/06/2015 04:20 PM, Schubert, Carsten [JRDUS] wrote:
>>> Hi Al,
>>>
>>> you would need to go through the Python API:
>>>
>>> python
>>> rms=cmd.align("mob////CA","tar////CA", quiet=0) print rms python end
>>>
>>> rms contains a tuple with various parameters related to the superposition. 
>>> The first value in the tuple i.e. rms[0] should be the RMS value.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>     Carsten
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Albert Solernou [mailto:a.soler...@leeds.ac.uk]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2015 8:32 AM
>>> To: pymol-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Subject: [PyMOL] RMS over a MD trajectory.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am trying to compute the RMS between a PDB file and a Gromacs trajectory. 
>>> I can see that "align" does things correctly when:
>>>    align trj, pdb1, mobile_state=1
>>> i. e., when I align the first snapshot of the trajectory with the PDB file. 
>>> I also understand that PyMOL does compute the RMS along the trajectory if I 
>>> simply:
>>>    align trj, pdb1
>>> as it is told in:
>>>    http://www.pymolwiki.org/index.php/Align
>>> However, I am unable to get the list of RMS values printed out. How could I 
>>> do that?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Albert
>>>
>>> --
>>> ---------------------------------
>>>     Dr Albert Solernou
>>>     EPSRC Research Fellow,
>>>     Department of Physics and Astronomy,
>>>     University of Leeds
>>>     Tel: +44 (0)1133 431451

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   Dr Albert Solernou
   EPSRC Research Fellow,
   Department of Physics and Astronomy,
   University of Leeds
   Tel: +44 (0)1133 431451


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