Hi all, Next #pypy-sync meeting on freenode.net is tomorrow Thursday at 1pm as usual.
Regular topics -------------- * activity reports (3 prepared lines of info) * resolve conflicts/blockers Here is my draft proposal of Topics of the week ------------------ A quick point about IRC logging I (Chris) have set up an eggdrop server on tismerysoft.de. This server logs #pypy, #pypy-funding (password), #pypy-sync, #pypy-tb. Let me know tomorrow if it should log something else. To make this service more reliable, I would like to add a second server. I could use another one of mine, but this makes no sense in using the same network. I'd like to ask which other server to use, maybe codespeak, maybe Armin's new server. Anyway, I'd like to take responsibility and the rights to set that up, since I did it before. Participation on the CCC congress in Berlin There is a CCC congress in Berlin 2005–12–27 to 2005–12–30. See http://wiki.chaostreff.ch/index.php/Main_Page They told us on IRC that they are interested in talks from us. This appeared to me to be quite unspecific, they seem to be interested in scientific talks. For PyPy, I anyway thing that it would be good not to emphasize too much on Python itself, but the general aspectsof translation which are possible to tackle with out framework. Se also Armin's draft in pypy/doc. We should collect who wants to give a talk or just attend this congress. We also might talk about how we manage claims about giving a talk. Practice has been to say it somewhere at some time often enough, but I'm not sure if this is a pleasant strategy for everybody to continue with. I would like to ask people who would like to attend in any way to inform me early, because I probably can provide help in finding locals who can share a room. Current optimization activities and allocation of work There are currently several ongoings on optimization, where I can't remember that they were assigned officially in any way. Practice seems to be to justpick an issue which has a good chance to provide a 200 % speedup and then go for it. I am personally not really happy with this and would like to ask about opinions. My proposal is to have a more informal way to decide about activities, by issuing a short IRC meeting and giving everybody a chance to ask for participation. We should also be open to discuss reasons for an individual's rejection. This might be painful, but setting facts by just doing things is a worse practice IMHO. Other activities, follow-up on sync meeting of last week As a conclusion from last week's meeting, docs and reports appear to reduce to a meeting of Holger, Carl, Samuele and Armin one day before the Paris sprint. I would like to ask again, if this was meant this way. There is quite some time left until Paris. Can we talk again about what we want to work on in the meantime, if it is not just optimization? -- The next topic is related, maybe this is a merger. Making money out of PyPy Jacob asked me on the last sprint, if it is possible to make money out of PyPy right now. I passed this around once, but would like to insist. I am personally interested to make PyPy move away a bit from its purely academical status and to think a little bit about how we can create practical applications in the near future, which allow to grow marketable services for our members, in order to reduce PyPy's dependency from the EU sponsoring. Please propose additions and changes, I just listed what immediately came to my mind. I'm also happy if you say some topics are too big and should be moved to another meeting. See you tomorrow at 1 pm. sincerely -- chris -- Christian Tismer :^) <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> tismerysoft GmbH : Have a break! Take a ride on Python's Johannes-Niemeyer-Weg 9A : *Starship* http://starship.python.net/ 14109 Berlin : PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/ work +49 30 802 86 56 mobile +49 173 24 18 776 fax +49 30 80 90 57 05 PGP 0x57F3BF04 9064 F4E1 D754 C2FF 1619 305B C09C 5A3B 57F3 BF04 whom do you want to sponsor today? http://www.stackless.com/ _______________________________________________ pypy-dev@codespeak.net http://codespeak.net/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev