On 10/08/2011 02:50 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Andy<angelf...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
15 times more memory? That's a lot.
Interestingly Quora reported that their PyPy processes were only 50% larger
than CPython ones:
http://www.quora.com/Quora-Infrastructure/Did-Quoras-switch-to-PyPy-result-in-increased-memory-consumption

"our PyPy worker processes themselves take approximately 50% more memory
than our equivalent CPython worker processes, although we did not do a large
amount of tuning of the GC. Regardless, this wasn't the main cause of our
memory blowup.
"In our development, we found that certain functions were not worth being
ported from their C libraries to pure Python, things like

crypto

,

lxml

,

PyML

, and a couple other random libraries. Our solution for those functions was
to run a parallel CPython process that would do nothing but take arguments
via an

execnet

channel, and output return values via the same

execnet

  channel.

"The overhead for some of these Python processes, especially for the ones
that required a lot of state (for example,

PyML

) is comparable to the amount of memory taken by the master PyPy process,
effectively causing a 2-3x blowup in memory just to maintain the CPython
processes; this is our main memory sink for our PyPy branch."
----
I wonder what accounts for this large difference in PyPy memory consumption
(50% more vs. 1,400% more). What type of "large amount of tuning of the GC"
did Quora do?
I think this is a bug, but also different stack was used right?
Indeed, pypy should not use much more than 2x of CPython usage, I
would like to give it a go if you can come up with a small
reproducible example.

Cheers,
fijal
yeah, I will send you the test suite in a while. This is a bit another setup: same site with no data and sqlite instead of pypq, but it's clear that the memory usage is also huge, though far more requests are needed to bump memory usage to 200mb. cPython memory usage is constant.
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