On 10/08/2011 03:35 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Igor Katson<igor.kat...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/08/2011 02:50 AM, Maciej Fijalkowski wrote:
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:48 AM, Andy<angelf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
15 times more memory? That's a lot.
Interestingly Quora reported that their PyPy processes were only 50%
larger
than CPython ones:
http://www.quora.com/Quora-Infrastructure/Did-Quoras-switch-to-PyPy-result-in-increased-memory-consumption
"our PyPy worker processes themselves take approximately 50% more memory
than our equivalent CPython worker processes, although we did not do a
large
amount of tuning of the GC. Regardless, this wasn't the main cause of our
memory blowup.
"In our development, we found that certain functions were not worth being
ported from their C libraries to pure Python, things like
crypto
,
lxml
,
PyML
, and a couple other random libraries. Our solution for those functions
was
to run a parallel CPython process that would do nothing but take
arguments
via an
execnet
channel, and output return values via the same
execnet
channel.
"The overhead for some of these Python processes, especially for the ones
that required a lot of state (for example,
PyML
) is comparable to the amount of memory taken by the master PyPy process,
effectively causing a 2-3x blowup in memory just to maintain the CPython
processes; this is our main memory sink for our PyPy branch."
----
I wonder what accounts for this large difference in PyPy memory
consumption
(50% more vs. 1,400% more). What type of "large amount of tuning of the
GC"
did Quora do?
I think this is a bug, but also different stack was used right?
Indeed, pypy should not use much more than 2x of CPython usage, I
would like to give it a go if you can come up with a small
reproducible example.
Cheers,
fijal
yeah, I will send you the test suite in a while. This is a bit another
setup: same site with no data and sqlite instead of pypq, but it's clear
that the memory usage is also huge, though far more requests are needed to
bump memory usage to 200mb. cPython memory usage is constant.
It *might* be the same thing as with tornado where memory usage grows
constantly. Justin peel is working on it and it'll be in 1.7 some time
soon (it does not have to though, but it does sound remarkably
similar)
I tried with that branch, but there is no difference. Will you try to
debug it with the stuff I gave you?
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