Hi Laura, Thanks for kicking this off. Just a brief comment: I am strongly for trying to get multi-language support into PyPy, particularly error messages and docstrings. The actual translations would have to be crowd-sourced of course, but there are various tools for that.
There are a few technical questions that need discussing, but those are probably solvable. (actually on the technical side I think there is a good reason why pypy is well-positioned to implement this: our error messages are already a bit different than CPython's, so code that depends on the precise error string is anyway potentially broken on pypy.) Cheers, Carl Friedrich On May 4, 2015 01:27, <l...@openend.se> wrote: > Hello gang. > > Mario Reingart has been trying to internationalise CPython > since at least 2012. > > Here is his lastest proposal, for GSOC. > > http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/proposal/public/google/gsoc2015/reingart/5634387206995968 > > The PSF declined to fund it. > > He's written a PEP about it, which apparantly isn't in the list of > PEPs anywhere, and has had this discussion, such as it was on the > python-dev mailing list. > > http://bugs.python.org/issue16344 seems to have the arguments against > having it put into Cpython. > > The arguments against seem very weak to me. > > My idea is that it would be good to intenationalise > PyPy and then we can capture all the > people who want to teach Python in the non-english speaking world. > Mariano already has written a book about using web2py, but as far > as I know we are perfectly compliant with this. Mariano didn't > know anything about PyPy when I wrote to him about it. The idea > that it was a completely Python compliant version was news to him... > an indication that we lack international communication presence. > This could be a way out of obscurity. > > Poor old Mariano has been fighting this fight since before 2012. > He is sad and unhappy. Mostly he is sad and unhappy because people > won't discuss what he wants, or move from -- ideals fine, implementation > well, would be better this way --- or any sort of reasonable discussion. > 'Hung out to dry' comes to mind. > > I sincerely suspect that the people here will support this idea, > but may argue that in pypy there are better ways to do it, and, well > we will get it done. But in any case, please be kind to Mariano, > since he has already suffered enough for the cause. > > ps -- funding it comes later. I'd like to get Mariano paid. > But I'd like to get some sort of idea that we want to go forward > with this before I make a different note on how I would like to > approach funding this. > > Take care all, > Laura > > _______________________________________________ > pypy-dev mailing list > pypy-dev@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev >
_______________________________________________ pypy-dev mailing list pypy-dev@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pypy-dev
