Julien Palard <julien+pyt...@palard.fr> added the comment:

Question: Why do we keep setuptools?

According to PEP453:

> Once pip is able to run pip install --upgrade pip without needing setuptools 
> installed first, then the private copy of setuptools will be removed from 
> ensurepip in subsequent CPython releases.

Which looks like to be the fact now:

    $ python3.9 -m venv .venv
    $ source .venv/bin/activate
    $ pip uninstall setuptools
    [...]
    Successfully uninstalled setuptools-49.2.1
    $ pip install --upgrade pip
    [...]
    Successfully installed pip-20.3.3

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nosy: +mdk

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