Hello, I agree with Brian and Nick. While I don't bother much with Anatoly anymore (I ignore at least 95% of his postings), I think it is not nice to let newcomers deal with the cognitive overhead of reading and appreciating his ramblings.
That said he doesn't need to be banned from *all* of python.org. Each mailing-list can take individual action. And the justification needn't be verbose. A two-line public message saying "For the record, Anatoly Techtonik has been banned from this mailing-list after the request of numerous contributors" is enough. Regards Antoine. Le mercredi 26 décembre 2012 à 08:18 -0600, Brian Curtin a écrit : > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 8:09 AM, Ezio Melotti <ezio.melo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That said, ISTM that the main problem is that the way he communicates is not > > really effective and that results in an "energy drain" for other people. > > This can be addressed on both the sides. > > The community should ignore the tone of the messages or even the messages > > themselves and most importantly avoid replies that convey the same negative > > feelings. > > I've filtered his emails to the trash for almost two years now, but > I'm not going to ignore that he's now discouraging my friends and > colleagues from contribution. I already removed myself from the nosy > list on a bunch of issues he created in the past, and the people who > were willing to work with him are dropping off. I also will not ignore > his tone about a GSoC contribution being useless. > > > People should be able to recognize when a discussion is not > > constructive anymore and leave it, rather than wasting time just to prove a > > point or to repeat themselves. (Note that this apply to everyone, and not > > to anatoly in particular). > > Regarding the effectiveness of the communications there's certainty room for > > improvement, but apparently the previous attempts to address the problem > > were unsuccessful. I'm willing to make an attempt myself, as I think I have > > a quite clear idea of the problem. > > You're wasting your time if you think you will be the one to break > through to him after several people have already talked to him. > Apparently he even got on Skype with Guido about this. People would > *pay* to have that chance. Anatoly got it for being a jerk and it > changed nothing. > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers
