> On Jul 19, 2018, at 11:52 AM, Doug Hellmann <d...@doughellmann.com> wrote: > > Excerpts from Antoine Pitrou's message of 2018-07-19 20:07:41 +0200: >> >> Le 19/07/2018 à 20:00, Carol Willing a écrit : >>> I appreciate and respect the importance of these decisions. The dates >>> that I suggested, and I am not anchored to any of them, were not >>> selected to rush or be hasty. Instead, it was respect for our time >>> together (at least some of us) at the September sprint and to have all >>> proposals on the table by that time. >> >> I hadn't thought about the September sprint. I'd say it's up to people >> to discuss those things there if they want or not (I would prefer if we >> could avoid discussions in select groups like that, but I don't think >> there's any reasonable way to prevent it). > > The best way to mitigate it is to agree that select groups who happen to > be able to meet in person won't make any final decisions, and that any > discussions they have that start to trend toward agreement will be > summarized to the mailing list so that the folks not able to be present > can benefit from and participate in the discussion.
Excellent suggestion. Reporting to the mailing list, python-committers and python-dev, would be the courteous and productive thing to do. > >>> My biggest concern is that dragging this on into the new year will >>> result in more bikeshedding, more uncertainty, and less confidence in >>> the developer community decision making ability. >> >> That's a fair point. But there's also an opposite concern that >> discussions may be deterred or cut short by a too tight deadline. Even >> simple and uncontentious PEPs take time to write, discuss and finalize. > > Maybe it would be better to focus on a first date for submitting > proposals and then wait to set the rest of the deadlines until after > we have a bit more of the discussion behind us. That will give us > a sense for how much consensus there is and how much more discussion > might be needed. This suggestion seems to balance well the different perspectives. Proposals due by Sept 9, 2018 AOE. No formal decisions prior to October 1, 2018. > > Doug > _______________________________________________ > python-committers mailing list > python-committers@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers > Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ _______________________________________________ python-committers mailing list python-committers@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-committers Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/