On 04.06.2018 20:11, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:57 AM, Yury Selivanov <yselivanov...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 12:50 PM Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 2:11 AM, Victor Stinner <vstin...@redhat.com> wrote:
[..]
For me, it's fine to catch any exception using "except:" if the block
contains "raise", typical pattern to cleanup a resource in case of
error. Otherwise, there is a risk of leaking open file or not flushing
data on disk, for example.
Pardon the dumb question, but why is try/finally unsuitable?
Because try..finally isn't equivalent to try..except? Perhaps you
should look at the actual code:
https://github.com/python/cpython/blob/b609e687a076d77bdd687f5e4def85e29a044bfc/Lib/asyncio/base_events.py#L1117-L1123
Oh. Duh. Yep, it was a dumb question. Sorry! The transport should ONLY
be closed on error.
I smell a big, big design violation here.
The whole point of Exception vs BaseException is that anything not
Exception is "not an error", has a completely different effect on the
program than an error, and thus is to be dealt with completely
differently. For example, warnings do not disrupt the control flow, and
GeneratorExit is normally handled by the `for` loop machinery.
That's the whole point why except: is strongly discouraged.
Be _very_ careful because when a system has matured, the risk of making
bad to disastrous design decisions skyrockets (because "the big picture"
grows ever larger, and it's ever more difficult to account for all of it).
The best solution I know of is an independent sanity-check against the
project's core design principles: focus solely on them and say if the
suggestion is in harmony with the existing big picture. This prevents
the project from falling victim to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee in the long run. This
is easier to do for someone not intimately involved with the change and
the affected area 'cuz they are less biased in favor of the change and
less distracted by minute details.
Someone may take up this role to "provide a unified vision" (to reduce
the load on a single http://meatballwiki.org/wiki/BenevolentDictator ,
different projects have tried delegates (this can run afoul of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s_law though) and a round-robin
approach (Apache)).
The best way, however, would probably be for anyone dealing with a
design change to remember to make this check.
This is even easier in Python, 'cuz the core values are officially
formulated as Python Zen, and any module has one or two governing
principles at its core, tops, that can be extracted by skimming through
its docs.
ChrisA
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