On 10/3/18 2:12 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
Hello,
I would like to propose Petr Viktorin as BDFL-Delegate for PEP 580,
titled "The C call protocol". He has co-authored several PEPs (PEP 394,
PEP 489, PEP 534, PEP 547, PEP 573), several of which involve extension
modules.
Petr has agreed to become BDFL-Delegate for PEP 580 if asked. Also
Antoine Pitrou, INADA Naoki and Nick Coghlan have approved Petr being
BDFL-Delegate.
I am well aware of the current governance issues, but several people
have mentioned that the BDFL-Delegate process can still continue for
now. I created a PR for the peps repository at
https://github.com/python/peps/pull/797
Hello,
I don't think it's formally possible to do that now, but the following
from elsewhere in the thread does make sense:
Antoine Pitrou:
Consensus would obviously work (if no-one opposes the proposed person,
then surely we don't need an elaborate governance model to decree that
said person can become the PEP delegate, no?).
Yes, it would feel very silly to have consensus and not be able to act
on it. But without a governance (and approval process) it's hard to
*ensure* we have consensus where all relevant voices have been heard.
On the other hand, I don't agree with Nick Coghlan here:
In this case, I'd consider it unlikely for either the PEP delegate appointment
or any decisions about the PEP itself to be overturned - while it's a complex
topic that definitely needs to go through the PEP process in order to work out
the technical details, it isn't especially controversial in its own right (the
most controversial aspect is whether it needs a new C level slot or not, and
the PEP should clearly lay out the pros and cons of that)
PEP 580 *is* controversial -- there's the competing PEP 576 by Mark
Shannon, who hasn't commented on this recently. Either would be an
improvement, but choosing between them is a hard trade-off.
I'll leave technical stuff to another thread and concentrate on the
process here.
When I'm happy with the PEP *and* if Mark says he's OK with it, I'll
post a summary to Python-dev & Discourse with a special focus on the
cons (e.g. the size increase of classes, which will affect everyone). If
there are no "-1"s on the PEP itself or on the way it's discussed, let's
treat PEP 580 as *provisionally* accepted, to be reverted if the new
governance doesn't ratify it.
If there is no consensus, we'll need to wait for the new governance to
decide.
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