Hi Irit,

reading this subthread specifically, I just got a wild idea and I couldn‘t find 
any related information in the PEP:

Why not extending BaseException by __group__ among __cause__ and __context__?

Would this reduce some of the added complexity and thus increase broader 
acceptance?

Cheers,
Sven


> On 7. Apr 2021, at 20:26, Irit Katriel via Python-Dev <python-dev@python.org> 
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 2:59 PM Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>> This point reminded me again of this issue in the tracker ("Problems with 
>> recursive automatic exception chaining" from 2013): 
>> https://bugs.python.org/issue18861
>> I'm not sure if it's exactly the same, but you can see that a couple of the 
>> later comments there talk about "exception trees" and other types of 
>> annotations.
>> 
>> If that issue were addressed after ExceptionGroups were introduced, does 
>> that mean there would then be two types of exception-related trees layered 
>> over each other (e.g. groups of trees, trees of groups, etc)? It makes me 
>> wonder if there's a more general tree structure that could accommodate both 
>> use cases...
>> 
>> --Chris 
> 
> Interesting, I commented on that issue - I think we may be able to solve it 
> without adding more trees. 
> 
> That said, we will have groups-of-trees/trees-of-groups.  Already today, an 
> exception plus its chained __cause__s and __context__s is the root of a 
> binary tree of exceptions.  The nodes of this tree represent the times that 
> the exceptions were caught.
> 
> An exception group is a tree where the nodes represent the times when 
> exceptions were grouped together and raised. 
> 
> Irit
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