On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:46 PM, Alexander Belopolsky
<alexander.belopol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:18 PM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote:
>> I'm sorry, but at this point I'm totally confused about what you're
>> asking or proposing. You keep referring to various implementation
>> details and behaviors. Maybe if you summarized how the latest
>> implementation (say python 3.2) works and what you propose to change
>
> I'll try.  The current implementation is of time.asctime and
> time.strftime is roughly
>
> if y < 1900:
>    if accept2dyear:
>        if 69 <= y <= 99:
>            y += 1900
>        elif 0 <= y <= 68:
>            y += 2000
>        else:
>            raise ValueError("year out of range")
>    else:
>         raise ValueError("year out of range")
> # call system function with tm_year = y - 1900
>
> I propose to change that to
>
> if y < 1000:
>    if accept2dyear:
>        if 69 <= y <= 99:
>            y += 1900
>        elif 0 <= y <= 68:
>            y += 2000
>        else:
>            raise ValueError("year out of range")
> # call system function with tm_year = y - 1900

The new logic doesn't look right, am I right that this is what you meant?

if accept2dyear and 0 <= y < 100:
  (convert to year >= 1970)
if y < 1000:
  raise ...

But what guarantees do we have that the system functions accept
negative values for tm_year on all relevant platforms?

The 1000 limit still seems pretty arbitrary to me -- if it's only
because you don't want to decide whether to use leading spaces or
zeros for numbers shorter than 4 digits, let me propose leading zeros
since we use those uniformly for months, days, hours, minutes and
seconds < 10, and then you can make the year range accepted the same
for these as for datetime (i.e. 1 <= y <= 9999). Tim Peters picked
those at least in part because they are right round numbers...

-- 
--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)
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