On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Brett Cannon <br...@python.org> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 18:32, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: >> Funny, I was just thinking about having a simple standard API that >> will let you open files (and list directories) relative to a given >> module or package regardless of how the thing is loaded. If we >> guarantee that there's always a __loader__ that's a first step, though >> I think we may need to do a little more to get people who currently do >> things like open(os.path.join(os.path.basename(__file__), >> 'some_file_name') to switch. I was thinking of having a stdlib >> function that you give a module/package object, a relative filename, >> and optionally a mode ('b' or 't') and returns a stream -- and sibling >> functions that return a string or bytes object (depending on what API >> the user is using either the stream or the data can be more useful). >> What would we call thos functions and where would the live?
> IOW go one level lower than get_data() and return the stream and then just > have helper functions which I guess just exhaust the stream for you to > return bytes or str? Or are you thinking that somehow providing a function > that can get an explicit bytes or str object will be more optimized than > doing something with the stream? Either way you will need new methods on > loaders to make it work more efficiently since loaders only have get_data() > which returns bytes and not a stream object. Plus there is currently no API > for listing the contents of a directory. Well, if it's a real file, and you need a stream, that's efficient, and if you need the data, you can read it. But if it comes from a loader, and you need a stream, you'd have to wrap it in a StringIO instance. So having two APIs, one to get a stream, and one to get the data, allows the implementation to be more optimal -- it would be bad to wrap a StringIO instance around data only so you can read the data from the stream again... > As for what to call such functions, I really don't know since they are > essentially abstract functions above the OS which work on whatever storage > backend a module uses. > > For where they should live, it depends if you are viewing this as more of a > file abstraction or something that ties into modules. For the former it > seems like shutil or something that dealt with higher order file > manipulation. If it's the latter I would say importlib.util. if pkg_resources is in the stdlib that would be a fine place to put it. -- --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list Python-Dev@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-dev Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com