On May 9, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 9 May 2014 13:06, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: >>>> I think it's important to point out that one of the driving factors that >>>> caused >>>> me to finally push for changes and what lead to PEP438 being created was >>>> that >>>> Mercurial's external hosted was being extremely flaky. I can't remember the >>>> exact details but I want to say that over the span of a week or two I was >>>> getting massive numbers of users complaining that ``pip install Mercurial`` >>>> was suddenly failing. This isn't to knock on the Mercurial folks or >>>> anything >>>> but to simply point out that these problems aren't things that just happen >>>> to >>>> (under|un)maintained software nor are they hypothetical. This PEP was born >>>> of >>>> the frustration that was being relayed to me by end users of PyPI/pip. >>> >>> So now "pip install Mercurial" always fails? And adding a flag allows >>> it to work as well as before, but no better? How did that fix the >>> issue? Seriously - I'm missing something here. >> >> No, This caused Mercurial to upload their packages to PyPI. > > You're claiming that Mercurial moved to hosting on PyPI solely because > users suddenly needed to add a flag to install from pip? As opposed to > because PyPI gave them a more reliable hosting platform, for example? > OK. I certainly can't give any evidence to dispute that claim, > although I'm surprised. > > Paul
I don’t know that for a fact but If my memory is correct that’s a reasonable assumption based on the timeline. ----------------- Donald Stufft PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA
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