> On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:12 AM, Nick Coghlan <ncogh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 24 Nov 2014 10:41, "Donald Stufft" <don...@stufft.io 
> <mailto:don...@stufft.io>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 23, 2014, at 6:57 PM, Steven D'Aprano <st...@pearwood.info 
> > > <mailto:st...@pearwood.info>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 08:55:50AM -0800, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> > >
> > >> But I strongly believe that if we want to do the right thing for the
> > >> long term, we should switch to GitHub.
> > >
> > > Encouraging a software, or social, monopoly is never the right thing for
> > > the long term.
> > >
> > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201405/github_monoculture.html 
> > > <http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201405/github_monoculture.html>
> >
> > I don’t think this is really all that big of a deal. If we want to move
> > off of Github doing so is easy.
> 
> It's only easy to leave if you never adopt any GitHub-only services like 
> Travis CI. It's the same lockin play as the one Google uses: make it easy for 
> people to move their data, so they're less likely to notice you're locking 
> them in with proprietary APIs and ecosystems instead.
> 
> You unlikely to see significant amounts of VC funding pouring into a company 
> unless the investors see a possible chance to extract monopoly rents at some 
> point in the future.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nick.
> 


Dropping those services is not harder than running those services on our own 
anyways. It’s unlikely, for instance, that CPython itself would ever be able to 
use Travis so if we did move to Github and at some point in the future want to 
move away from Github we’d simply be reverting to the state we’re in now. We 
wouldn’t be worse off other than we’d have experienced something better than 
what we have now. I suppose purposely hobbling ourselves so we never get used 
to something better is a legitimate way to manage things.

It’s not different than saying spam filtering is a “vendor lockin” on gmail 
because if you want to switch away from it in the future you’ll have to set up 
your own spam filtering.

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