Le 7 août 2015 00:51, "Robert Collins" <robe...@robertcollins.net> a écrit : > So - I was in a talk at PyCon AU about conda[*], and the author > believed they were using the latest pip with all the latest caching > features, but their experience (16 minute installs) wasn't that.
If an expert user is unaware of having to explicitly install wheel, what about other users? Packaging is the most hated feature of Python. Please don't add extra pain for purity and make sure that ensurepip installs "pip" and not "slow pip until you install wheel in the venv". To develop on OpenStack, I have more than 20 virtual environment on my PC. I recreate them regulary because I like downgarding or upgrading a package, or edit the code of a package directly in the venv (usually to debug). Since pip7, the creation of venv is much faster. Please don't make pip slower. Victor
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