----- Original Message ----- > > I would say this one https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1351 is important > > for us > > as packagers. It makes me nervous/upset and sad altogether :-). > > Awesome, well that’s on the list for 1.6 so that should be the next feature > release > of pip.
Cool, thanks a lot! > > > >> having it tied so closely to Python. Also generally about making less > >> headache > >> for distros where pip is involved (pip and the OS package manager stomping > >> on > >> each other etc). > >> > >> To start off this goal I've filed https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1668 > >> to > >> figure out how pip can get our defaults to the point where most users will > >> be > >> installing to ~/.local/ instead of the system location. If there's more > >> things > >> pip can do I'd love to know about them, or if ensurepip or the PEP453 > >> processes > >> have something I can help with too :) > > > > Nice, I have put my two cents in it. > > > On the topic of re-wheeling (Sorry I just joined so I don’t have it in my > history to reply to). > > I’m assuming Fedora unbundles the stuff that pip bundles (sorry :/) and I’m > guessing that > since the Rewheeling is going to pull in the system versions that it’s going > to pull in a > copy of pip with those things unbundled. If that’s the case you’re going to > need to install > those things into the virtualenv itself. Just yesterday, I took ownership of python-pip in Fedora and I'm quite surprised that we don't unbundle anything. I'll have to investigate this. It actually makes sense now that I think of it, since the rewheeled pip has worked for us in virtualenv - had we unbundled the bundled code, it would have failed. > However I think that the copy of pip inside of a venv should keep stuff > bundled if at all > possible. One of the reasons we did this was so that when using pip inside of > a venv > we don’t make any assertions about what other things you can have installed. > So for > example we depend on requests, we don’t want someone who is using an older > (or newer!) > requests inside of their venv to be unable to install it because pip itself > uses it. Also > another reason we did that is because if you uninstall one of those things > and it breaks > pip you don’t really have a good way to unbreak it except destroy the venv or > install it > manually. This is less of a concern for the system installed pip because you > have yum > or whatever that can be used to fix it and y’all integrate things already to > ensure compat :) > Maybe the reasons for you to bundle are also the reasons why Fedora's pip doesn't have these libraries unbundled. As I've said, I need to investigate this. Regards, Slavek > > ----------------- > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 DCFA _______________________________________________ python-devel mailing list python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devel
