Has this critical pip issue been addressed? https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2012-February/162518.html
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Donald Stufft <don...@stufft.io> wrote: > > On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:59 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda <bkab...@redhat.com> wrote: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> I would say this one https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1351 is > important > >>> for us > >>> as packagers. It makes me nervous/upset and sad altogether :-). > >> > >> Awesome, well that's on the list for 1.6 so that should be the next > feature > >> release > >> of pip. > > > > Cool, thanks a lot! > > > >>> > >>>> having it tied so closely to Python. Also generally about making less > >>>> headache > >>>> for distros where pip is involved (pip and the OS package manager > stomping > >>>> on > >>>> each other etc). > >>>> > >>>> To start off this goal I've filed > https://github.com/pypa/pip/issues/1668 > >>>> to > >>>> figure out how pip can get our defaults to the point where most users > will > >>>> be > >>>> installing to ~/.local/ instead of the system location. If there's > more > >>>> things > >>>> pip can do I'd love to know about them, or if ensurepip or the PEP453 > >>>> processes > >>>> have something I can help with too :) > >>> > >>> Nice, I have put my two cents in it. > >>> > >> On the topic of re-wheeling (Sorry I just joined so I don't have it in > my > >> history to reply to). > >> > >> I'm assuming Fedora unbundles the stuff that pip bundles (sorry :/) and > I'm > >> guessing that > >> since the Rewheeling is going to pull in the system versions that it's > going > >> to pull in a > >> copy of pip with those things unbundled. If that's the case you're > going to > >> need to install > >> those things into the virtualenv itself. > > > > Just yesterday, I took ownership of python-pip in Fedora and I'm quite > surprised that we don't unbundle anything. I'll have to investigate this. > It actually makes sense now that I think of it, since the rewheeled pip has > worked for us in virtualenv - had we unbundled the bundled code, it would > have failed. > > Ah I just assumed y'all did, that actually makes sense now why you hadn't > run into that issue yet :) > > > > >> However I think that the copy of pip inside of a venv should keep stuff > >> bundled if at all > >> possible. One of the reasons we did this was so that when using pip > inside of > >> a venv > >> we don't make any assertions about what other things you can have > installed. > >> So for > >> example we depend on requests, we don't want someone who is using an > older > >> (or newer!) > >> requests inside of their venv to be unable to install it because pip > itself > >> uses it. Also > >> another reason we did that is because if you uninstall one of those > things > >> and it breaks > >> pip you don't really have a good way to unbreak it except destroy the > venv or > >> install it > >> manually. This is less of a concern for the system installed pip > because you > >> have yum > >> or whatever that can be used to fix it and y'all integrate things > already to > >> ensure compat :) > >> > > > > Maybe the reasons for you to bundle are also the reasons why Fedora's > pip doesn't have these libraries unbundled. As I've said, I need to > investigate this. > > For what it's worth, we do attempt to make it easy for the system level > pip to have it's copies of stuff unbundled, but if you keep it bundled and > use rewheel it'll be easier to do modifications to it than having the > system pip and the "bundled" pip have different sources. Because the pip > source just bundles stuff as part of it's source while the venv source has > it inside a Wheel so you have to do an unpack, modify, repack dance that > rewheel will do for you. > > FWIW the technique used by Python for PEP453 matches what we already were > doing in the virtualenv package, so if you modify the behavior there, it > might be reasonable to also modify it in virtualenv to use rewheel. That > would also cut down on the number of different sources of pip. > > > > > Regards, > > Slavek > > > >> > >> ----------------- > >> Donald Stufft > >> PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 > DCFA > > _______________________________________________ > > python-devel mailing list > > python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devel > > > ----------------- > Donald Stufft > PGP: 0x6E3CBCE93372DCFA // 7C6B 7C5D 5E2B 6356 A926 F04F 6E3C BCE9 3372 > DCFA > > > _______________________________________________ > python-devel mailing list > python-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/python-devel >
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