On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 05:11:08PM -0500, Abe Dillon wrote: > The problem here is not whether it's explicit. It's about Readability and > conciseness. Using symbols in place of words almost always harms > readability in favor of conciseness.
And that is why we prefer COBOL over unreadable Perl-like languages that use unreadable symbols like: arithmetic operators + - * / // % ** bitwise operators & | ^ >> << ~ comparison operators == != < <= >= > function call symbols func(arg) argument packing and unpacking *args, **kwargs sequence slicing seq[::] assignment = comments # decorator syntax @ What a horrible, unreadable language that would be. REMARK this is much better than Perl-like x = func(a, b, c) PUT THE RESULT OF CALLING FUNCTION func WITH ARGUMENTS a AND b AND c INTO x \s Why do you claim that symbols and conciseness is "almost always" worse for readability? Your assertion doesn't survive even a cursory consideration. Readability doesn't occur in a vacuum. You have to understand the symbols, and it doesn't matter whether they are punctuation or words, if you don't understand them, they're "unreadable": result = page_count + 1 # readable jwrtsv = xpwvabs_ue + 1 # what? result obqxayrhs page_count wmsna 1 # what? The first time I encounted Python 1.5, I found it unreadable: it was full of mysterious keywords "class", "def", strange punctuation like [1:] and x.y, and idioms I couldn't guess like for i in range(len(seq)) With no context, it might as well have been Ancient Sumarian. Do you know what helps readability? *Learning to read*. Once you have learned to read ?. and friends, they will be as readable as . and slicing is now. -- Steve _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list Python-ideas@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-ideas Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/