On 07/09/18 03:38, Anders Hovmöller wrote:
For comparison, my reaction did indeed involve awe. It was full of it,
in fact :-p Sorry, but that syntax looks at best highly misleading --
how many parameters are we passing? I don't like it at all.
(nitpick: we're passing arguments, not parameters)
potayto, potahto
I don't see how this could be confusing. Do you think it's confusing how
many parameters a function has in python now because of the keyword only
marker? This suggestion follows the same rules you should already be
familiar with when counting parameters, why would you now have trouble
counting when the line doesn't begin with "def " and end with ":"?
I counted commas. I came up with the wrong number. Simple.
For what it's worth, I don't like the keyword-only marker or the
proposed positional-only marker for exactly the same reason.
I'm in favour of consistent naming when it helps the code, when the
names are clear and relevant.
Which is what I'm saying.
Actually you are not. Adding specific syntax support is a strong signal
that you expect people to use it and (in this case) use consistent
naming. Full stop. It's a much stronger statement than you seem to think.
I expect this to be common enough to warrant nicer language constructs
(like OCaml has). I expect people today to use positional arguments to get
concise code, and I think python pushes people in this direction. This is a
bad direction imo.
I disagree. Keyword arguments are a fine and good thing, but they are
best used for optional arguments IMHO. Verbosity for the sake of
verbosity is not a good thing.
I disagree that f(*, page) is more readable than an explicit named
keyword argument f(page=page).
People prefer f(page) today. For some reason. That might refute your
statement or not, depending on why they do it.
Evidence?
Run my analysis tool. Check the numbers. It's certainly true at work, and
it's true for Django for example.
OK, then your assertion didn't mean what I thought it means, and I'm
very confused about what it does mean. Could you try that again?
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Rhodri James *-* Kynesim Ltd
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