On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 19:28 J. Pic <j...@yourlabs.org> wrote: > +1 because print is a debugging tool mostly used in short lived > temporary code as such the parenthesis do not matter and do not > provide any value.
A lot of debugger use print to instrumentalize their code during > development or debugging, as in: "I want to dump some variable and run > my test again" or something like that. This means that they are > writing a line of code that has a lifetime of a few minutes if not > seconds. I believe that the parenthesis don't matter in the vast > majority of cases where a developer writes a print statement: because > they would delete afterwards ie. with git checkout -p or something. > > As such, PEP8 would have to decide that parenthesis are the way to go, > even though bare print statements are nicer for debugging than > parenthesis based debug statements. -1 Respectfully, I disagree on the facts presented here. print is often not used as a disposable debugging tool. For example, it is sometimes used to write to files other than stdout. On the other hand, assert has no parentheses, and gets committed for posterity everywhere. I confess I haven't really understood the value proposition of having such a distinction between this kind of special statement and any other built in function. I never have, and clearly the early Python makers did, so feel free to discount my arguments as someone who "doesn't get it", but I nevertheless see both print and assert as contrary to some parts of the Zen of Python: > Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. … > There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
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