You've started three separate threads to propose something that has exactly zero chance of happening, and would be of limited use in uncommon cases. And that would break literally billions of lines of working code.
If you want the modulo operator, you are more than welcome to use it. If you want to subclass list, have at it. On Wed, Nov 25, 2020, 12:48 PM Mathew M. Noel via Python-ideas < python-ideas@python.org> wrote: > If circular indexing is used then instead of using a double FOR loop to > go through a list M times we can iterate from 0 to M*N (where N is the > length of the list) !!! > > > Almost all Machine Learning (ML) algorithms iterate for some predefined > epochs over a large data-set. So a double FOR loop is extremely common in > ML. Using circular indexing gets rid of this extra FOR loop. If we have to > iterate 2 times you can iterate using range(-n,n) but in most cases you > need to iterate over 10 or more epochs in ML. > > > Most scientific applications of Python involve an outer FOR loop which > progressively refines an approximation with an inner FOR loop by going > through a list of items. So circular indexing is useful. In the following I > discuss increasingly compelling reasons for adopting a circular indexing > scheme in Python. > > > Python uses an index of -1 to index the last element in a list. Since -1 > occurs before 0 we might think of the elements of the linear list are being > bent into a circle making the last element occur before the 0th element. > Consider a list with n elements: it would be perfectly reasonable to > address the element 0 of the list using an index of n since n occurs after > n-1 (if we assume that the list is bent into a circle). This feature can > prove to be extremely useful. Consider the following example: > > > days_of_the_week = > ["Sunday","Monday","Tuesday","Wednesday","Thursday","Friday","Saturday"] > > It would be nice if > > days_of_the_week[0] > > is the same as > > days_of_the_week[7] > > is the same as > > days_of_the_week[14] etc > > In other words use modular indexing. In other words if the index is outside > the range 0 to n-1, we simply take the remainder when the index is divided by > n as the index. > Because of the close relationship between finite length sequences and > periodic sequences this feature might simplify scientific computing(circular > convolution etc). > > If circular indexing is used then we don't need the arbitrary rule that -1 > is the index of the last element. Since -1 is the same as n-1 automatically > in modular arithmetic. > > > A trivial objection: "why not use list_name[i%n] whenever we need this > feature?" By the same token we could do away with negative indices and use > -1%n for example when we need to index with -1! > > Its unclear why that people have an irrational preference for indices > that lie to the left of 0 while strongly rejecting the idea of indices that > lie to the right of n-1! > > Python does not raise a "index out of bound" exception for negative > indices like other programming languages. If this negative indexing is a > "feature" (although it allows some fatal errors to slip) then indices above > n-1 can also be considered a feature! > > Are there any deep mathematical reasons for adopting circular convention? > Circular convolution is a most important operation in a wide variety of > scientific disciplines since the Discrete Fourier Transform (DFT) of the > circular convolution of two signals is the product of the transforms. > Because of the universal applicability of Fourier ideas in science and the > close mathematical relationship between finite length and periodic > sequences circular indexing is extensively used in signal processing and > mathematics. > > We can extend the idea of circular indexing to multidimensional arrays. A > 2D array can be folded into a cylinder for indexing. Further this cylinder > can be folded into a toroid to reduce a triple FOR loop to a single FOR > loop. A deep mathematical justification for cylindrical indexing of 2D and > in general nD arrays is offered by the fact that n-dimensional DFT reduces > n-dimensional circular convolution to element-wise multiplication. > > _______________________________________________ > Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ > Message archived at > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/5TJYKFLBHB26WEFFQXMY6AGWS34XTIUR/ > Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >
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