Hello, On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:02:21 +0000 Paul Moore <p.f.mo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Dec 2020 at 15:55, Paul Sokolovsky <pmis...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I also forgot to mention very important point in the intro: when you > > read this proposal, please don't think about "CPython". That for > > sure will send you the wrong vibes. Think about "Python". ;-) > > By which you mean "CPython and all other implementations" I assume? No, I mean exactly what's written in the proposal: "This proposal seeks to introduce opt-in "strict execution mode" for Python language implementations interested in such a feature." > I'm also -1000 on this proposal, even if you just limit it to CPython. > > It's not at all clear what prompted this idea, The proposal is 32+K (whoa, am *I* scribbled all that?!), so I suspect somewhere in there it makes it clear(er). > but if you're > suggesting "modify Python so we can make it faster" then I'd rather > see a prototype implementation that demonstrated both the limitations > *and* the improved performance. Yeah, I'd like to see that too! I just calculated that if betting on myself, it may take years, or maybe I give up or switch over to something else, like most other people do. So, I decided to throw over the fence what I have now - the idea, more or less detailed "spec" for it, and even an implementation in a niche Python dialect, but exactly the one of the kind which may benefit from it. Just imagine that if someone wrote previously such a detailed spec, which I liked - I might implement it now. And if they actually even provided a sample implementation, I might now code changes for it in the compiler, and maybe even run a few tests to provide those performance figures which you and me so much would like! Getting thoughts like that, most people I know would reflect them on themselves, and I'm not an exception. So, I post whatever I have for peer review, and continue. > We shouldn't limit the core language > based simply on speculative benefits that some implementation might be > able to achieve. That's why it's introduced as an *opt-in* feature for *interested* implementations. > > Paul -- Best regards, Paul mailto:pmis...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Python-ideas mailing list -- python-ideas@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to python-ideas-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-ideas.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/message/KKY7MQVCMQT7V6ZMLEKH4YBB76QIRWV6/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/
