Chris Angelico writes:

 > And there we have it. People are complaining loudly, but then ALSO
 > saying that they don't support the proposal anyway. Why are you
 > bothering to debate this if you've already made your decision?

I can't speak for Brendan, but I have two reasons for discussing
despite being broadly in sympathy with David Mertz's reasons for
opposing the proposal:

1.  Often enough I've disagreed with a proposal, only to see it
    implemented.  Of course, I want the least bad version from my
    point of view.

2.  More altruistically, even though I disagree with a proposal, I
    would be ashamed if I thought there was a way to improve a
    proposal, and didn't mention it in the hope of sabotaging the
    proposal's chances by leaving it less than it could be.

That doesn't mean in either case I'm right, of course, but at least I
can *try*. :-)

Regards,
Steve

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