On 9 juin, 20:43, "Russ P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (snip argument about s/private/public/g on a whole source tree not being a fork, and not being by far a worse hack than monkeypatching a small specific part of a whole lib - what can I say ?)
> How about some common sense here. Good question. But for which definition of "common sense" ? May I remind you that, for a long time, "common sense" dictated that the earth was flat and at the center of the universe, and that anything heavier than air could by no mean fly ? Or, more recently, that their was a market for at most 5 computers on earth, and that 640kb of RAM ought to be enough for anyone ? > If you, the client, are convinced > that something declared private should really be public, then perhaps > you should contact the developer and explain your reasoning. Indeed. At least something we seem to agree on. > If the > developer agrees, then the problem is solved. Indeed again. But... But if it takes 6 month to get the mentioned developer to release something I can use, I'm screwed up. Fine. As strange as it might be, I prefer to *first* make it work, *then* contact the developer. And while we're at it: > If not, Then I prefer to be able to monkeypatch the code and only maintain my monkeypatch than to have to maintain a whole fork of the original lib. But YMMV of course... > then perhaps it > is *you*, the client who does not understand the proper usage of the > code. Do you really think that I'm fiddling with implementation stuff that may break my code any other release because I don't *understand* that code ? But anyway : even if it happened to be the case, it would still be my own responsability. So what's the matter ? Should we forbid hammers because you could use one to bang your head with ? > I don't have time to reply to all or your claims, but my lack of a > reply to any particular point should not be construed as implicit > agreement. Sounds like a lawyer's notice. Anyway, your lack of agreement won't keep me from happily add implentation attributes to existing objects whenever I find it appropriate. Sorry for being more on the pragmatic side than on the cargo-cult one. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list