r> I do not like self, and i lamented it from day one, now it is second
    r> nature to me but does that mean it is really needed?? I feel i have
    r> been brainwashed into its usage.

    ...

    r> 3000 would have been the perfect time to dump self and really clean up
    r> the language, and it's not too late, dawn is not upon us yet.

Bruce Eckel proposes removing self from argument lists:

    http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=239003

Guido responds:

    http://neopythonic.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-explicit-self-has-to-stay.html

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